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Hi,

I just stumbled upon this...

Judging from a very poor Google translation, it seems that this interview could be VERY interesting to AR 9 and 90 owners/fans :lol: :

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I loaded images in Acrobat, used OCR and pasted the result in Google translate.

Unfortunately, the translation is far from perfect... :angry:

Are there any Italian speaking members who could help?

Please? ;)

This is the result I got from using Acrobat OCR and Google Translate:

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tim

holl

During a recent visit to our headquarters in Massachusetts

and planting in the AR riuolto have some questions to Tim

Hall director team of engineers who developed the project

speakers. Vertica / s •. Young peo-known AR 9 and AR 90, and the new models

AR 91 and AR 92, which is unprecedented for readers

SOUND. The following is the complete translation of

record of the interview with Tim Hall.

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proposed an easing. optimal

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The Bower5 & - Wilkins has shown

in his trattaz.ione he wanted

adopt this trend for

Its DM-6.

What response curve measured

with the system indicated is considered

ol / imal from AR?

Hall; We have made a

much of the work of development

new speakers in our

calibrated listening room. In these

conditions the absorption of the Room

medium and high frequencies is such

to cause a roll-off.'s curo

response is very similar to that

She showed me that we have no

tried to compensate in any

How this trend trying

make flat response because we

that if for example a violin

playing in st3nz3 in slessa p0sizione

occupied by the diffuser pro.

goes its emission would undergo a natural

absorption of the same type

and nobody would think to enhance the

high frequencies to make it "flat •.

But when we had to decide

the response at low frequencies,

we tried to eliminate

influences of the room as the hole

causal reflection from pavimenlO

and the back wall, possible

holes of interference and so on.

But the general trend of the curve

not necessarily remain

the same in any environment

ascollo, rimpcntante is likely

also keep changing in a

some should be measured the position of boxes

and the 'listener in slesso environment

listening. For example, our

listening room due to a trend

decreasing slightly more than

showed me, this is

ima room that can be considered

a cross between an environment

the average property and an environment

• Dead .. (soft absorbent).

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Q: The AR-90 built for the stole funziollare

leaning against the wall frame dl

pWltO listening to, if ql! esta installation

not possible and speakers

should be at the mu lOlltanate ·

ro (albeit accettalldo of falling

ilel problem of reflection and re / ativa

localiuata attenuation of the response)

How should you act on riequUibrare

issue since the frequent

low result in this case

particularly alleviated? Si de ·

ve act on checking for / fllSore mitigating

also the rest of

range?

A: If you must use the AR-90

away from the wall the best system

to make a correction, at least

as shown by our measurements,

is probably to use the

bass control of the amplifier.

The reason is that when leaves

the chest wall is obtained from an attenuation

gradual response

decrease de: t the frequency, which begins

from approximately 500 Hz, this trend

is very similar to that: it can be

caused or corrected by a normal

d control the tone with frequency

_ of turnover. of 1000 Hz, then

best fix is to gradually

a tone control. Also

When we move the cash avvidnandola

a side wall are

that the response becomes a trend in exaltation that begins in the area between 500 and 1000 Hz and

therefore can be corrected very well

with a tone control, no

probabilmennte get a fix

• exact .. but it is a good compromise.

D., What is the function of controls

_ · mid-level low. mid.high. and high ..,

present on the box?

A: First I have to d ire that

Our _Marketing Department .. us

said it is very diffidle sell

speakers unchecked, so we

so we mounted controls

as the sales office has asked us,

but in the case of HR 9 and 90 they help

really on calibration for different

listening environments, and there are indeed

rooms furnished with rif1ettenli,

and other absorbent dfetto

is a variation of the response in

mid-range and medium and high, with

controls i: I? ossibility: varying trends

of I "in a very RESPONSES

complex with the controls on cash

and always get a good fair.

book, but I do not think we can Chorus

stand for a variation of the response

at low frequencies with

controls because they act

continuously on a whole range;

For example, the control of the midrange

bass acts in the way s weave across

range from 200 to 1000 Hz less

three that you could want is

its action as that of

bass control amplifier,

is gradual, the controls of cash

are implemented with resistors to scale '

you three dB.

E 'adjustment rather' brutal

but we have seen that many people

prefer to listen with controls

midrange and at twccter ·

tenuate of three dB, especially in environments

little towel, I personally

use the AR-9 and Flat position:

I act for the changes that I want

with tone controls, but usually

we must correct

response to our room to listen ·

to the AR, in which everything is

then pesto linear.

D. And I think that the controls of cash

possallo also help to adjust

the response depending on varlicolare

mllSica a type of recording technique

wilizzara?

A: Yes and no, if you speak the pure response

Frequency Probab ilmente no,

but if you speak of sound and long ter_

mine the person who buys the fund

may prefer, this is the best

system to follow.

Q: What do you think of your speakers Iradizionali?

There are a number of speakers ran ~

• Non-traditional ..!

Q: omnidireziotlali and us refer to

those at ri / profession.

A: OK. take the concept. Direct

Reflecling .. developed by Bosc,

who was the initiator and probably

remains the best in this

SOUND · N. 65 - September 1979

.certainly

valid approach

provides you

number of experiences-Ascoli

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ple with certain installations of speakers

we obtain an extension of camo

little noise is a very

nice, I would ask if it is a

feeling "accurate", but is certain ·

mind a feeling like a bad ·

ta people. Ouando is required scn ·

sation accurate as the perception

stereo which incorporates life rea ·

le, then I believe that such a system

speaker is not the answer.

Again, if we put a speaker

HR in the reverberant room and

we put the microphone in front of

it, we can see that the field

direct is still relevant and if we rotate

the center speaker mode to heal.

give the bread opposite dc '! Microphone

lh'ello lle to the high-frequency mo lto

(say, above the 10 kHz) drops

significantly; this because ncssu ·

na r ivcrberante room is perfectly ta on

entire audio range.

In addition we also have a response that grows a little over 10 kHz

· with a very gradual increase; na ·

ture if you're listening to AR • 9 (or

the 90) will receive more energy axis

above 10 kHz and not below,

with this speaker, but that s i ·

speaker system is not for

necessarily designed to work

exactly towards the listener, rather

fauo is to be supported in parallel

the wall opposite, so

listening to an angle of

20-25 degrees or something like that response and flatter, but also

frequencies above 10 kHz that

differences are probably very

difficult to perceive if not unheard ·

Bili altogether.

D. : Heil believes that the development of

frequency response is not de ·

ending for qualitd listening

and attaches great imo

tance to the modulation frequency which considers respollsabili the altoparlallti

traditional.

The parameter which he considered more important

filli of listening to is "velocird

response, which determines the

characteristics of the 'first arrivo_.

Who attaches great importance to

• • Phase _ has philosophical positions "

similar.

What is the grandezZJl or type of pre ·

station, if any, Chile considers AR

primary importanZJl to obtain

the best result of listening?

A: I do not think there is some imo

bearing parameter in particular;

I think there are a series of numbers

parameters that are all imponanti.

If you take a speaker

which has a frequency response

This will certainly be very bad

Audible, a first approximation

a speaker that has peaks or holes

the response frcquenza large

deep and will not sound as good

one that has a regular response;

D I'm not talking Affected

narrow that may not be

heard. So based on my experience

I must say that the response

Attendance is very important, but

we consider a nchc speaker

which has a high per.

percentage of fifth harmonic distortion

and we realize that sounds

ter in a way ribile if pa Aragon

a speaker that does not have this

distortion, we must say COSLA

that the distortion is a para ·

meters important, I still feel

that there are parameters that can

influence the sound much more

others, such as said

first Bob (Bob Berkovitz n.d_r.) us

Today we can measure virtually

all the characteristic parameters of

a speaker, but the demand

ask is whether when we improve the performance

in respect of a certain para ·

meters with respect to q ow reached

until then, s the hyenas October

a real advantage audible, or

better to spend that money in another

How?

Pcr example of speaking time

arriving Phasc

between emissions

verses! loparlanti

system, we will certainly sem.

pre a difference between the arrival times of signals from different speakers, Bob Berkovitz led

a search of the very interesting

out of high fidelity, but also in

field of acoustics and showed

that if you listen to a system component.

I'm of two speakers with the tweeter

2 or 3 meters away from the woofer

hear a delay, but for the distance

ze that come into play in speakers

Conventional is not the case, also

also-if you can get a miglioramellto

any results from the shifting

slightly over the speakers

position chosen for the microphone,

This does not apply for other positions;

in other words it seems that

If you need to spend money on me.

g1iorare the performance of a loudspeaker

do agree to consider other

maggiormcnte significant effects, as

reflections from certain Pilrti dci

Mobile with some speakers or effects

cavities of the border you Loudsp.

flocculants, ie directing the expenditures made

SODO for things not audible to

things that are certainly audible. Not

There is no magic ingredient, for

as the most important thing

AR-9 and it is less common

that adopts a sound invention

as l '. Acoustic Blanfet "(we

seen something similar on other boxes,

but these were not factors in

red calculate precisely the effect which

the desired direction), not

and possesses a low response

frequcnze particularly extensive,

falto not having a provision

Vertical speaker, not the

that has the woofer close to

walls, not the fact that it has one

special crossover for low

frequencies, but the fact that we

together all these things in a

integrated project, and I think this

The important thing is to listen ·

exporter. •

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Check the library for Tim's original paper published by AR. It should contain all the same technical content as the interview.

http://www.classicspeakerpages.net/library...he_ar-9_by_tim/

I'm familiar with the paper from the library.

I find this interview completely different, with many interesting and new facts...

For example this:

Q: What is the function of controls

_ · mid-level low. mid.high. and high ..,

present on the box?

A: First I have to say that

Our Marketing Department .. us

said it is very difficult sell

speakers without controls,

so we mounted controls

as the sales office has asked us,

but in the case of AR 9 and 90 they help

really on calibration for different

listening environments, and there are indeed...

It seems that 0db -3db -6db level switches were added by marketing/sales department request,

since they felt that speakers without controls were difficult to sell!!!

:angry:

Most of the original white paper is about design principles.

It seems that in this interview there there are more "real life situation" questions and answers.

More on level switches:

...are implemented with resistors to scale '

you three dB.

E adjustment rather brutal

but we have seen that many people

prefer to listen with controls

midrange and at tweeter ·

attenuate of three dB, especially in environments

little towel, I personally

use the AR-9 and Flat position:

I act for the changes that I want

with tone controls,

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Tim is a brilliant speaker engineer and important mentor to me.

But his theory about the audibility of hyenas in October is just wrong.

-k

Hi,

I just stumbled upon this...

Judging from a very poor Google translation, it seems that this interview could be VERY interesting to AR 9 and 90 owners/fans :) :

1979%20Tim%20Holl%20AR_A.jpg

1979%20Tim%20Holl%20AR_B.jpg

I loaded images in Acrobat, used OCR and pasted the result in Google translate.

Unfortunately, the translation is far from perfect... :D

Are there any Italian speaking members who could help?

Please? :)

This is the result I got from using Acrobat OCR and Google Translate:

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Here is the translation, courtesy of my daughter. (Word doc)An_interview_with_Tom_Holl_.doc

Very amusing--she called me from Italy today to tell me she was sending it, and said to me, "You and your friends actually find this stuff INTERESTING?"

"Yes, we do," I replied.

Steve F.

Note--she did a great job translating it, but she misspelled Holl's name as 'Tom' in the doc title instead of 'Tim.' Kind of like throwing a no-hitter for 8 2/3, then giving up an infield hit.

Steve F.

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Note--she did a great job translating it, but she misspelled Holl's name as 'Tom' in the doc title instead of 'Tim.' Kind of like throwing a no-hitter for 8 2/3, then giving up an infield hit.

Steve F.

Dear Steve,

Thank you and your daughter very much for this. As a proud owner of AR-9, I find it VERY INTERESTING to read and know better the design concept behind this great speaker.

Cheers,

Viet Anh

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the file comes out as gobble-de-gook for me...

I had a similar problem, I tried loading it in Word 2002 and it wanted to load mswrd632.wpc but I didn't work.

I then loaded it in a copy of Word 2007 (it loaded) and then I saved it as a Word 97-2003 format and printed it to a pdf, for others.

Try this copy.

I hope this helps!

An_interview_with_Tom_Holl_word97_03.doc

AN_INTERVIEW_WITH_TIM_HOLL.pdf

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I had a similar problem, I tried loading it in Word 2002 and it wanted to load mswrd632.wpc but I didn't work.

I then loaded it in a copy of Word 2007 (it loaded) and then I saved it as a Word 97-2003 format and printed it to a pdf, for others.

Try this copy.

I hope this helps!

Thanks Richard, that helped a lot.

BRgds Klaus

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I had a similar problem, I tried loading it in Word 2002 and it wanted to load mswrd632.wpc but I didn't work.

I then loaded it in a copy of Word 2007 (it loaded) and then I saved it as a Word 97-2003 format and printed it to a pdf, for others.

Try this copy.

I hope this helps!

yes that helps completely. thank you very much!

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