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  1. I did not want to divert the thread from cones vs domes and it was tending toward a personal advice column with me seeking answers I am not sure others would care about. 

    I am not a speaker builder.  In the simplest form my question is which cone driver size will give max dispersion in the 200 to 4000hz range?

    My reason for asking can be found in these threads.

    http://www.classicspeakerpages.net/IP.Board/index.php?/topic/9415-using-small-bookshelf-speakers-to-create-a-uniform-spacious%C2%A0soundfield/

    http://www.classicspeakerpages.net/IP.Board/index.php?/topic/9588-baar-lst-hybrid-blast-stack/

    There is no need to read the whole thing just look at the photos but, you should know that all 8 mid&tweet drivers per side are equalized and have their combined output balanced to the woofer.   This is not a bunch of speakers running wide open to get the biggest, loudest sound.

    This started out as a powered subwoofer project and morphed into this hybrid. I have standard setups of AR9s and 3as which I like but I now listen to this system more than anything else.  What I intend to do this week is simplify it. I will eiminate the sound of the AR58 mid and tweeter by using a second Crown DSP amp to turn the 58 into a woofer only system.  The satellite stack configuration will change and be rebalanced and equalized.  If I don’t hear what I expect then I will restore the system to its current klugier config and move the amp to another system.

    The satellites are 5.25” Bostons but they are so cheap and easy to find that I have been thinking that perhaps a 6” would be better to crossover even lower and get the woofer completely out of the female voice range but I didn’t want to sacrifice dispersion for a lower crossover and that is really the root of my question to you.

    I have never liked the beaminess of satellite speakers but know they can be competent performers above the mid bass level.   My original idea was to do this with powered subs but they are too tricky for my taste and quite by accident I found this approach can be very effective if you have the spare hardware sitting around.

    I have done internet searches looking for others trying to accomplish the same thing with no luck otherwise I would be trying to talk to them.  I have found plenty of diy line arrays but that is not what this is.  If I am trying to emulate anything it would be an LST.

    Anyway, I think I have explained why I am asking and only had the single question about driver size and dispersion.

    Thanks

    Frank

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    2. Aadams

      Aadams

      When you we are after different goals, do you mean "you and I' or "We and They"?

    3. Pete B

      Pete B

      People who are in the wide dispersion vintage AR camp are "illuminating" their probably

      too small (in my opinion) rooms with sound.  I am not in that camp as I believe that small

      rooms are bad for good sound.  I do all critical listening in the sweet spot and I listen to a 

      lot of vocal performers who I want placed center, between the speakers.  I listen with 

      speakers 3 or more feet from the wall behind them.  Sure, I also listen well off axis when

      the music is just for background listening.  I don't expect that I'd be an AR LST lover, since

      they also "illuminate" the side walls though I've not had a pair in my home.

      I think you and I are after different goals.

    4. Aadams

      Aadams

      Got it.  The odd thing about this satellite stack is it has a sweet spot and seems expansive.  The speakers are not wide dispersion and I would like to see how it would do in a larger room to check for beaminess.  I must say being forced into a sweet spot has been a new and pleasurable experience though don't like being nailed down to listen.

       

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