[My refurbished Genesis Physics Model III's]

Still going strong and sounding better than ever with this new room and configuration.

 

 

[Cizek Model 1 2 or 3 with subs vs KA-1 with subs?]

Question:  I haven't changed any settings on the Q panel on my Model One since I got them.  

What would be an ideal configuration based on the room they are in;

room dimensions:  

in feet:  12 x 20, ceiling 8
metres:  3.6576 x 6.096, ceiling 2.4384

Speakers/stands are:  

in feet: 5 forward of the back wall, 2 away from side walls, 12 from speakers to the seating position
metres: 1.524 forward of the back wall, 0.6096 away from side walls, 3.6576 from speakers to the seating position.

Also, since I'm currently running them with subwoofers, would it require a different configuration?

[Cizek Model 1 2 or 3 with subs vs KA-1 with subs?]

Amazing work, thanks.

[Cizek Model 1 2 or 3 with subs vs KA-1 with subs?]

Do you have any photos of the KA-1s?  Did you ever have the KA-1 with your sub within a HiFi 2 channel audio setup?

I've heard about the KA-18, but since they seem so super rare I also don't see any being available locally.  I also see quite a few Cizek in Italy, and  on YouTube, which is nice.  I was happy to find the Model 1 locally.

I'm curious about the KA-1 as I'd wonder if they sound better with subs than a Model 3?

[Cizek Model 1 2 or 3 with subs vs KA-1 with subs?]

I currently have my Cizek Model 1 on stands and paired with a set of subs in the room and they sound fantastic. 

But I read somewhere that the Model 3 were more appropriate with subs.  And I wonder how the KA-1 pair with subs.  Has anyone had the opportunity to hear these with this  configuration?  And possibly a set of Model 1s, even on their own.  If so which sounded better?  And where were the speakers placed within the room?

[My refurbished Genesis Physics Model III's]

Got these earlier this year which replaced my Cerwin Vega VS-120s.  Very nice speakers, but had a friend recap them recently and wow what a difference.  Everything opened up, and more deep bass.  Keepers, along with my Cizek Model One speakers, both from that great vintage 1970's era.

[Found pair of Cizek MG-27 subwoofers]

A friend told me the Model 3's with the subs sounds better overall than the One's or 2's alone.  I may be able to get model 3's, but I won't do that unless I have a pair of Cizek subs as well, which I doubt as they are super rare.  But it would be a fun project one day.

[Found pair of Cizek MG-27 subwoofers]

On 1/9/2022 at 4:25 AM, Giorgio AR said:

Both Cizek MG-27 subs are finished !!
The four woofers are on the cabinets with new seals, the cabinets rewashed and cleaned, the grids washed, the subs are now connected to a Technics SU-V8 amp and have been playing for four hours continuously !!
The 27Hz claimed by Roy Cizek all feel ... MG-27 sub is simply definitive.

Ciao Giorgio, fantastic work.  After I got my Model One's I learned more about Cizek speakers and I was curious about also getting a pair of Model 3's and one sub.  But I don't see the subs for sale anywhere near me.  Please show us more pictures when your stereo setup is completed and also how they sound.  How does this compare with just a pair of Model One's?

[My refurbished Cizek Model One's]

Actually I have 2 NAD 2200 power amps.  I did hook them up briefly to test them, but with the Genesis speakers in the main room.  A lot more oompf than the single 2200.  But for this smaller room the single power amp is plenty.

[My refurbished Cizek Model One's]

Found the Cizeks are nice but the Genesis Physics Model III are better in the bigger, main listening room.  I moved the Cizek along with the NAD gear into a smaller room.

 

[My refurbished Cizek Model One's]

I actually have 3 receivers, all from 1976;  Sansui 9090, Kenwood KR-9600 and a Technics SA-5760.  I also just acquired a NAD 1000 pre-amp and 2 NAD 2200 power amps.  The tuner in the pictures is a Kenwood KT-7300 and works through the Sansui as the FM radio does not work.  I also just acquired a Yamaha T-85 Tuner.  I listen to analogue radio almost every day.  And it works even when the Wi-Fi does down....

[My refurbished Cizek Model One's]

Thanks Giorgio.  Yes I'm enjoying these speakers very much.  I've played all types of music from Prog and Heavy Rock to Jazz to Classical to Motown, everything sounds outstanding.  I had a friend listen to the Phil Collins song In The Air Tonight...when the drums finally came in they filled the room, very deep and punchy.  He did not expect the speakers to deliver sound that big.

[My refurbished Cizek Model One's]

Hey all,

I was fortunate enough to meet another audiophile who had a pair of Cizek Model One's and he informed me of their history.  Shortly after I bought a used pair for sale locally from the  original owner who bought them at a HiFi store locally in 1976.  I had another friend refoam them.

They sit on a pair of used Osiris Audionics stands (100lbs (45kg) each filled).  After breaking them in for a bit I have to say they punch way above their size and weight.  I've had friends over and each has said they feel that they are listening to much larger speakers.  Very happy with these speakers.  My other speakers are Genesis Physics Model III from 1978.