audiofreak Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 ADS L810 in the house. Have been listening to (l910 triamped, L810 biamped at a friend's for years) Finley found a pair for myself. Big surprise as how well they work with the Krell amp. Detail is just silly, bass punch is tight and fast. Mids and highs are clean and clear. Really good match for the Krell. Very pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofreak Posted August 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Sorry about the multi post mods please delete 2 of them. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tysontom Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 14 hours ago, audiofreak said: ADS L810 in the house. Have been listening to (l910 triamped, L810 biamped at a friend's for years) Finley found a pair for myself. Big surprise as how well they work with the Krell amp. Detail is just silly, bass punch is tight and fast. Mids and highs are clean and clear. Really good match for the Krell. Very pleased. Just curious, what do you mean by "bass punch is tight and fast?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofreak Posted August 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 By fast and tight I am trying to describe the bass as each drum beat is clear (no muddyness or boomyness.) Bass strokes are not "elongated" very live sounding. Stand up base's clear and more "present" less recessed. Each bass instrument is sepporate and distinct and has its "own space" not intermingled with one another. As you see I'm not good at describing what I hear. I hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofreak Posted August 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Actually I've been listening to them for about a month and they just get better (in my system) and I'm playing around with biamping them. Have had the xover set up to biamp them with a dynaco on top (500 htz up) and the Krell at 500 down. Thru an active 2 ch extrenal xover. Quite impressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tysontom Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Just now, audiofreak said: By fast and tight I am trying to describe the bass as each drum beat is clear (no muddyness or boomyness.) Bass strokes are not "elongated" very live sounding. Stand up base's clear and more "present" less recessed. Each bass instrument is sepporate and distinct and has its "own space" not intermingled with one another. As you see I'm not good at describing what I hear. I hope this helps. audiofreak, the expression "bass punch is tight and fast" really doesn't mean anything. It's an old, tired, audiophile expression that's not based in actual science, and it probably originated at Stereophile magazine back many years ago. It's not the woofers that reproduce most low-frequency transients; it's the midrange and treble that reproduce those overtones and harmonics. The woofer reproduces mostly lumbering, steady-state sounds. If the bass sounds extra crisp and "dry," then the woofer could be over-damped. You don't really want this, but what you are trying to describe in the ADS is the clarity of the midrange and treble dome drivers. Bass-drum rim shots sound clear and well-defines, and plucked violin strings would sound crisp, etc. The woofer actually has very little to do with this effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofreak Posted August 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Oh well that's why I'm not a writter. Don't consider myself an "audiophile" either! Guess I will have to take a primer on audiospeak so I can articulate "sound" better. It's difficult, as I know everyone "hears" differently, to discribe what to me is almost an emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tysontom Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, audiofreak said: Oh well that's why I'm not a writter. Don't consider myself an "audiophile" either! Guess I will have to take a primer on audiospeak so I can articulate "sound" better. It's difficult, as I know everyone "hears" differently, to discribe what to me is almost an emotion. audiofreak, it's fine; we all knew what you were trying to say. Just saying that the expression "tight bass," and "bass punch" are frequently used to describe an emotional experience that sometimes doesn't exist in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD70 Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Congrats and welcome to the ADS club! What external cross over are you using and post a pic please of your new beauties and the cross overs. Cheers! Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofreak Posted September 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 The xover is a Rane ac22b totally recaped (22 caps) and modded. For some the internal xover mods won't upload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD70 Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Thanks audio freak! You have some very nice components there! I did a quick look on fleabay for the crossovers, pretty reasonable prices. Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofreak Posted September 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Thank you GD70 it been a journey that wont end im afraid.Of the many "affordable " (or cheep) xovers out there I have found the rane proforms well. And the build quality is very good. What I would like to have would require a little larceny IE: rob a bank! LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidDru Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Nice ST70. I need to find a way to use mine more and this might be a route to explore. Lets see some photos of the 810's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tysontom Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 On 9/3/2016 at 10:03 AM, DavidDru said: Nice ST70. I need to find a way to use mine more and this might be a route to explore. Lets see some photos of the 810's! Going back in time to 1968... I used to listen for hours on end to my hi-fi system with Dynaco (Dynakit) preamps, power amps and tuners, and I always enjoyed the clean, low-distortion sound! One system I owned had AR-3a speakers (and AR-4x) Dyna Mark III amps, and I had this system running when my apartment one fine day when the setup was struck by lightning (see images), making a direct hit through the side of the apartment, penetrating the back side of one AR-3a, burning the speaker wires and eventually damaging one Mark III! The AR-3a's fiberglass caught fire inside the cabinet, and the woofer cone was displace all the way outside of the magnet gap, but it actually survived! I eased the cone back into the gap, and the woofer seemed to work fine, but I sent the whole thing back to AR, where the company refurbished the entire speaker for free and returned it prepaid to me! I still own this pair of AR-3as, and they work fine. I had a Dyna Stereo 70 at one point, Dyna Mark IIIs, Dyna PAM-1 and PAS-3X and many other Dynas I built in kit form! After the lightning strike, I started using the AR Amplifier. This was the last time I actually had Dyna products in use until I bought a Dyna 400 to use with my AR-LSTs. That amp failed, unfortunately, after a night of heavy listening. By the way, does anyone else have any interesting stories about their systems? Any fires, complete failures or injuries? --Tom tyson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofreak Posted October 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 Here is an interesting pict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofreak Posted October 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 This is the Rane ac22b xover. Works fine but nothing SPECIAL. Nudes are of unit after recap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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