The 'Outer-Limits'............

[frankmarsi]

11-2-11

I don’t know what to do, I freak’in just don’t know what to do….

I have a chance to get another pair of AR-LST’s for a good price, comparatively speaking of course, although, it will be more than I ever paid.

If I take the plunge and delve into that area, that would lead me into another area, there's a chance I may not ever come back! I‘m-a scared Alice!

I’ve read more than 4 years or so ago some member here, one of the ‘big-boys’ mentioned listening to eight LST’s with four Phase Linear 400 amps a blazing, two speakers stacked in each of four corners of a room. He spoke of listening to a piano sounding almost, if not actually sounding identical in ear/mind reckoning effect as REAL. That struck me at the time, and I realized that if I act silly and always look for more LST’s, I maybe where da-hell he was speaking from? What’s better than that?

Well, I struggle with the opportunity to do it right now. Music and art addiction can be a precarious place of being.

I already have the wonderfully blazing amps ready to go, where it would take to go, four PL-400’s.

It’s just a matter of gett’in that fourth pair of LST’s.

It’s 'big', if I do, it would mean; mental restructure, view-point restructure, and monumental listening room restructure.

If I wait, I may miss my chance at these speakers for sale, if I don’t bother I can go on gracefully, and never look back and still enjoy what I have.

Please, don’t imagine for me, give me an honest opinion here, time is short.

I already know the ability of sound reproduction listening to four of these guys, but eight of ‘em? This could be my end, remember that scene from the ‘80s, in that movie with the big speaker and amp, Back to the future 2 was it?

FM

P.S. Oh, yeah and, it's at a point with this freak'in hobby, that if anyone wants to help, send cash, don't be shy. You'll be helping a case of needed care for people like me, which thinking about it, it may be you being the same way as me? You do what you do, correct? That's why you're reading this.

Using AR speakers and the soothing of one's soul with music is paramount these days, if you're experienced enough to know?

[roundhome]

Sorry Frank. It is now 10 LST in a full 5 channel system. I Now have a center channel set

and a set of original box's. but they don't make it sound better don't think any thing could make it sound better

but go for it Frank you only live once

[frankmarsi]

Heh, heh,and heh....I'm gonna faint and knock all of my equipment to the floor with me underneath it all. Broken bones and organs with do me in! And I thought I was nuts. This may be true, but come on!

Gee, 'Ralphie boy'. I can't imagine owning so many LST's as you, maybe you've miscounted? I use 4 only and my 2 others sleep with me in the bedroom, silently, no hook-up, there's no other room in the house to play with this stuff.

fm

P.S. If you really do, you maybe are more capable of more love for LST's than I am? Sorry, I find that hard to believe.

Yeah, but, go-on! What are you powering them with? What pre-amps.control centers can do that with listening realism? What amps, pre-amps, how many signal losing cables would be realistic, with-out signal quality loss?

Five channels are next to what, stereo is only two? Forgive my ignorance, but five channels maybe like a big city street at rush-hour? A concert hall is only in front of you with ambient sound at a very reduced level behind, left/right,etc. It won't be long from imagining 'omni-sound' and that was a slogan by low-end manufacturers in the late mid-seventies for 'discount-sound' quality. But, if it's true about your multi/dear I say 10- LST's, gee Alice. I really can't imagine it at all, anyone here might chime in with the same questions? I imagine no one will though?

I listen to two-channel by choice, five channels is, I guess, to say that, I'm just 'out-dated', but still happy to know. Four 12 inch AR woofers are nothing to poke fun at with 550 to 700+ watts each at their asking call, with 'only' two channels. After a listening session at high volumes, well, I'm just deafened and fall asleep quickly in bed, I don't even want to stay in the same room. Four LST'S alone dictate those LST's own the room on their own at night.

I was only talking about the guys' eight LST's in one room as I read on this site, his name was, was.....? I can't imagine where 10 LST's would fit, although I'd like to try to get that high with you and then on my own? If it be in multi rooms perhaps, well alright then, but do describe the arrangements, please. This site is 'chuck full of nuts' people who'd like to know like me? Possibly a hand drawn or PS 'over-head' diagrams might be helpful to understand? Do speak of amps and control-centers, please. If admission to such calamity is uncomfortable here, PM me.

fm

[tysontom]

Frank, you may be referring to Mitchell Cotter's 4-channel setup that was reviewed many years back by Larry Klein of Stereo Review. You have the speakers you need (or close to it) and amps, but what you need to fill out this system is a discreet 4-channel professional deck (such as an Ampex 440B 4-channel or similar) and the "Sonar Ambiphon" low-noise 4-channel tapes, running at either 15 or 30ips. When you get that system completely set up, send us some pictures and a full description!

--Tom Tyson

[frankmarsi]

Frank, you may be referring to Mitchell Cotter's 4-channel setup that was reviewed many years back by Larry Klein of Stereo Review. You have the speakers you need (or close to it) and amps, but what you need to fill out this system is a discreet 4-channel professional deck (such as an Ampex 440B 4-channel or similar) and the "Sonar Ambiphon" low-noise 4-channel tapes, running at either 15 or 30ips. When you get that system completely set up, send us some pictures and a full description!

--Tom Tyson

Hi Tom, and thanks for replying. After reading the reply, and deciding not to purchase the fourth pair of LST's as I feel my dreaming has come to a screeching halt. Certainly you're not to blame. It’s mostly the reality of the 'cost-factor' and the related aspects of delving into something that is more rare than the vinyl-world that presently pre-occupies me. In the past twenty years it has been more than difficult to find Maxell UD-XL, 35-180B un-used tape at any sort of realistic price, let alone pursuing either pre-recorded factory made tape/ home made tapes in four channel, although I imagine they do exist at a price. The room requirements, the ‘pre-amp’, tape-deck situation, etc. etc., would overwhelm me more than I am already at this juncture. I didn’t get into the four-channel area back in the seventies, so I don’t think it’s a good idea at this late date. Presently, I dabble restoring a couple of Thorens TD125 turntables along with S.M.E. non-improved arms and my limited time is balanced between that and trying to listen and clean the vinyl I have on tap.

So, sorry to disappoint, but no, Norton, I mean Tom, I won’t be getting the fourth pair of LST’s and I won’t be planning on the four-channel area either. Although, now that you’ve ‘set-me-straight’, I do have enough AR-3a’s that I could use, stupid thing is; I didn’t even think of that until now. Ya see, ya see how distracted I am? I mean I did come across only a few four-channel records while on my ‘marathon-vinyl-safaris/expeditions’ and bought them for a possible future project.

I do realize it wouldn’t be as great as four-channel tape playback though.

Hey, but now that I’ve got your ear a little bit here, I may, in the future call upon you. “Oh, watch out now Alice”!

FM