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I just saw an ad on ebay for a pair of AR-LST's.

These were the later model, with the crossover mounted inside the enclosure, from the woofer opening.

Looks like a real butcher job, or less than AR's best on the tweeter installation and the mid-range replacement sure wasn't done much better.

I've never seen such bad tweeter factory installation on a pair of LST's.

All this for only a small price of $1999.00 and starting bid of only $2500.00 buy-it-now.

Heaven knows what's been done inside the enclosure.

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>I just saw an ad on ebay for a pair of AR-LST's.

>

>These were the later model, with the crossover mounted inside

>the enclosure, from the woofer opening.

>

>Looks like a real butcher job, or less than AR's best on the

>tweeter installation and the mid-range replacement sure wasn't

>done much better.

>

>I've never seen such bad tweeter factory installation on a

>pair of LST's.

>

>All this for only a small price of $1999.00 and starting bid

>of only $2500.00 buy-it-now.

>

>Heaven knows what's been done inside the enclosure.

>

>

Vern, it looks like this pair of LSTs was built at the beginning of the "new-style" cabinet; that is, the drivers were still hard-wired to the tweeter-terminal strips, but the cabinet style (the rear input section) and the grills are from the newer style. In addition, the tweeters appear to have been replaced with the back-wired style (tabs on the back of the tweeter, but solder lugs on the front), and the mounting and soldering was extremely crude, let alone the taping. The tweeters could well be wired out of phase, which would affect the output of these tweeters (some louder than others). The crossover is located in the same location as in all LSTs, but the appearance is different on the back-side input section. Someone applied flat-black paint to the front baffles as well. A few of the later LSTs were factory-painted this way, but this pair seems to have been over-painted. Incidentally, the woofer surrounds appear to be okay, but I noticed that they had a seam -- perhaps the surround company made them that way.

--Tom Tyson

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>>I just saw an ad on ebay for a pair of AR-LST's.

>>

>>These were the later model, with the crossover mounted

>inside

>>the enclosure, from the woofer opening.

>>

>>Looks like a real butcher job, or less than AR's best on the

>>tweeter installation and the mid-range replacement sure

>wasn't

>>done much better.

>>

>>I've never seen such bad tweeter factory installation on a

>>pair of LST's.

>>

>>All this for only a small price of $1999.00 and starting bid

>>of only $2500.00 buy-it-now.

>>

>>Heaven knows what's been done inside the enclosure.

>>

>>

>

>Vern, it looks like this pair of LSTs was built at the

>beginning of the "new-style" cabinet; that is, the drivers

>were still hard-wired to the tweeter-terminal strips, but the

>cabinet style (the rear input section) and the grills are from

>the newer style. In addition, the tweeters appear to have

>been replaced with the back-wired style (tabs on the back of

>the tweeter, but solder lugs on the front), and the mounting

>and soldering was extremely crude, let alone the taping. The

>tweeters could well be wired out of phase, which would affect

>the output of these tweeters (some louder than others). The

>crossover is located in the same location as in all LSTs, but

>the appearance is different on the back-side input section.

>Someone applied flat-black paint to the front baffles as well.

> A few of the later LSTs were factory-painted this way, but

>this pair seems to have been over-painted. Incidentally, the

>woofer surrounds appear to be okay, but I noticed that they

>had a seam -- perhaps the surround company made them that

>way.

>

>--Tom Tyson

>

Tom you never cease to amaze me with your very high perception for detail.

I didn't initally notice the woofer seam, thank you for mentioning it.

I now wonder if the tweeters and one mid-range were field replaced rather than factory installed.

It definitely doesn't look like an AR tweeter wiring installation.

I feel too strongly about the quality that was at the AR factory to believe that they would ship something so obviously ugly and amateurish, but then that's me.

The mid range is a field or service depot replacement I believe.

I guess we'll be seeing more copies on ebay as time goes along.

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>>>I just saw an ad on ebay for a pair of AR-LST's.

>>>

>>>These were the later model, with the crossover mounted

>>inside

>>>the enclosure, from the woofer opening.

>>>

>>>Looks like a real butcher job, or less than AR's best on

>the

>>>tweeter installation and the mid-range replacement sure

>>wasn't

>>>done much better.

>>>

>>>I've never seen such bad tweeter factory installation on a

>>>pair of LST's.

>>>

>>>All this for only a small price of $1999.00 and starting

>bid

>>>of only $2500.00 buy-it-now.

>>>

>>>Heaven knows what's been done inside the enclosure.

>>>

>>>

>>

>>Vern, it looks like this pair of LSTs was built at the

>>beginning of the "new-style" cabinet; that is, the drivers

>>were still hard-wired to the tweeter-terminal strips, but

>the

>>cabinet style (the rear input section) and the grills are

>from

>>the newer style. In addition, the tweeters appear to have

>>been replaced with the back-wired style (tabs on the back of

>>the tweeter, but solder lugs on the front), and the mounting

>>and soldering was extremely crude, let alone the taping.

>The

>>tweeters could well be wired out of phase, which would

>affect

>>the output of these tweeters (some louder than others). The

>>crossover is located in the same location as in all LSTs,

>but

>>the appearance is different on the back-side input section.

>>Someone applied flat-black paint to the front baffles as

>well.

>> A few of the later LSTs were factory-painted this way, but

>>this pair seems to have been over-painted. Incidentally,

>the

>>woofer surrounds appear to be okay, but I noticed that they

>>had a seam -- perhaps the surround company made them that

>>way.

>>

>>--Tom Tyson

>>

>

>

>Tom you never cease to amaze me with your very high perception

>for detail.

>

>I didn't initally notice the woofer seam, thank you for

>mentioning it.

>

>I now wonder if the tweeters and one mid-range were field

>replaced rather than factory installed.

>

>It definitely doesn't look like an AR tweeter wiring

>installation.

>

>I feel too strongly about the quality that was at the AR

>factory to believe that they would ship something so obviously

>ugly and amateurish, but then that's me.

>

>The mid range is a field or service depot replacement I

>believe.

>

>I guess we'll be seeing more copies on ebay as time goes

>along.

>

Hi again

I am sure you know this Tom, but at least here in Vancouver buying an AR-3A 11" surround is generally a lot more difficult than buying a generic 12" surround.

I have seen numerous 12" surrounds cut down to fit the AR-12" woofer rather than pay the premium for the AR-12" size.

I was told that the AR 12" size is or was proprietory and so we pay a few bucks more for this size, and it's usually special order if at all.

In truth, it could be because of less sales too, why stock a poor seller.

A chap was selling rubber/neoprene surrounds on ebay several years ago.

I bought a pair of 10" and 12" but I have never had a reply back from the seller as to whether a 11" is or would be available.

They are very well made by someone who obviously is in the business, not some poor copy made in a fly by night basement operation.

I was anticipating replacing the AR 12" surrounds with the rubber surrounds and experimenting.

I am sure I can cut out a section and bond a small splicer section and do it, but once I've cut it, tooooo late.

Knowledge is neverending.

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