rl1856 Posted June 14, 2021 Report Share Posted June 14, 2021 What would you say if you could purchase a new speaker with the following features: Hardwood cabinet 10 inch acoustic suspension woofer 3 inch cone midrange 1 inch dome tweeter 8ohm nominal impedance LF response -3db at 45hz. The description should remind you of a specific speaker. In fact the above is currently available- someone has resurrected KLH and introduced an updated Model 5. Begs the question of why someone hasn't done the same for AR and the AR 2ax.... Early reviews are favorable, with many complimenting the quality of bass response. It seems that current reviewers have no experience with classic AS speakers, and are surprised at the extension of quality of bass response. Interesting development all around I would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar_pro Posted June 14, 2021 Report Share Posted June 14, 2021 The KLH Five is another interesting re-introduction, along with the JBL L-100 Century, from a couple of years ago. Whoever currently owns the Acoustic Research or Advent brand names might be missing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidR Posted June 14, 2021 Report Share Posted June 14, 2021 Voxx owns the rights to AR IIRC I don't know about Advent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKent Posted June 14, 2021 Report Share Posted June 14, 2021 Nice but $2,000.00 a pair. A nice pair of originals would be far more economical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lARrybody Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 The new KLH company headquarters is less than 5 miles from my house. I would like to hear them compared to my originals. I bet they are better. The 2 grand price includes the steel stands. They have veneer and grill cloth options. When compared to the price of L-100 Century's they are a bargain. Samsung and Harman might have to reconsider the price on the JBL's. Do I need another pair of speakers? No Do I have room for more speakers? No Would I like to hear these in my family room? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakecat Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 hours ago, JKent said: Nice but $2,000.00 a pair. A nice pair of originals would be far more economical. agree.....plus for two grand....you couldn't do the 12" woofer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AR55 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 The only way that someone builds an new AR or Advent speaker that remotely resembles the new KLH Five is if Voxx sells the the brands. I believe that under Voxx's ownership the AR & Advent brand names are destined to just fade away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakecat Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 Well....we do have the infamous 303 from 1995. Be hard to top that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AR55 Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 On 6/14/2021 at 6:03 PM, ar_pro said: Whoever currently owns the Acoustic Research or Advent brand names might be missing out. This is how far the AR & Advent brand names have fallen under Voxx: Voxx uses the AR name on a line of outdoor speakers: Voxx - AR Speakers. Not exactly high end, but at least they are speakers. Sadly, Voxx has relegated the Advent name to floormats: Voxx - Advent Floor Mats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 They wisely played the words here, but leads the customer to wrong conclusion. I would not buy them solely because of this misleading sentence: uses acoustic suspension design principles made famous by founder Henry Kloss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Nicolai Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 On 6/23/2021 at 12:48 PM, Gaston said: They wisely played the words here, but leads the customer to wrong conclusion. I would not buy them solely because of this misleading sentence: uses acoustic suspension design principles made famous by founder Henry Kloss I don’t want to start a war here, but I think that the statement you object to is very carefully worded, and not really inaccurate. True, Henry Kloss did not invent the acoustic suspension speaker design. That accolade belongs to Edgar Villchur alone. But as a founding partner in AR, and as head of production design and operations, Kloss was instrumental in bringing Villchur’s design to life and to the buying public. From everything I have read, it’s hard to imagine AR ever getting off the ground without the contributions of Henry Kloss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKent Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 Well, if it’s a war I’m with you Norman. Vilchur was the inventor and an academic. It was Kloss who pushed him to start AR and was definitely responsible for making the acoustic suspension speaker famous. Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lARrybody Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 56 minutes ago, JKent said: Vilchur was the inventor and an academic. It was Kloss who pushed him to start AR and was definitely responsible for making the acoustic suspension speaker famous. RaRa sent me this 1962 Edgar Villchur book several years ago. I tried to read and understand it, but I am just a regular guy. Did not know who Henry Kloss was till my father bought two pairs of Large Advents in the very early 1970's. Went with him a few years later to check out a Advent Tri Beam. First large screen TV I remember seeing. Henry was a visionary and a great marketer. If his name was associated with it you might want to check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genek Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 Villchur was the inventor and the primary evangelist for the technology, while Kloss was the hands-on manufacturing engineer and production manager. Villchur was probably more responsible for making acoustic suspension famous, while Kloss deserves the credit for actually getting it made. The true monument to Henry Kloss as visionary is the big screen TV on your living room wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar_pro Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 59 minutes ago, genek said: The true monument to Henry Kloss as visionary is the big screen TV on your living room wall. Only if it's a projection set; otherwise, it's hats off to Nick Holonyack, who invented the first visible light LED and George Heilmeier, whom we can thank for the LCD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genek Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 I credit Kloss with evangelizing the idea of really big TVs that people could actually afford to put in their homes and watch as if they were in a theater. Prior to Kloss' marketing of his Novabeam system, big screen TVs were things I only saw in bars and magazine articles about Hugh Hefner's Playboy mansion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar_pro Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 It's true that Kloss' Novabeam projection sets were real-world, and groundbreaking, although still something less than the sci-fi dream of a huge TV screen hanging on a wall; or a wall that actually was a TV screen. I've always really liked the way the flat-screen TV was presented in Truffaut's Fahrenheit 451 (1966). Having Julie Christie on board didn't hurt either! The version in the 1956 film of 1984 wasn't quite as desirable...poor Winston Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genek Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 Yes, the idea that Kloss advanced was that we could save up our pennies and buy our own big screen TVs without having to have them supplied by bookburning totalitarian states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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