Mot Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 11:34 AM, zcon67 said: The fabric I've been using is a 100% linen with a 19 and 20 thread count. Starts very light but soon mellows down. Could be tea stained. I remember my first pr. of fives out of the box were very light so I left it as is. If you look at this online it does not show well. It is ILO41 at fabrics-store.com. PeteZ Thanks for this info! Did you purchase the “OATMEAL?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zcon67 Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Hi Mot, I used the first one, bleached, thinking it would darken in time like the other fabric used by AR. Luckily it did, but it took a few years. Looks great now. I haven't tried to tea stain any fabric. This was bright when purchased. PeteZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reza Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Antique White looks ok to me https://www.thecrossstitchguild.com/products/cork-20-count-linen.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKent Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Some good leads here. Gene, I'd like to know if you've made any more progress in your quest. zcon's looks good too. he Cork 20-count from England looks too white to me although it could be tea dyed. Speaking of tea dyed, I've used this https://www.michaels.com/charles-craft-28ct-irish-linen-needlework-fabric/10357706.html It's inexpensive. Michael's used to have 40% off coupons routinely but now they're just 20% Even so, inexpensive. It's 28 count but very light weight. Called "Irish Linen" and although it used to be made in Ireland or Northern Ireland it's now imported from Poland. There can be a lot of variability in the color so it's best to go to the store and look at several packages. I've used it on a couple of different speakers. To give an idea, here are some examples: AR-4x AR-7 KLH 33 Rectilinear Mini III Rompicollo (a DIY designed by Johnny Richards that I wanted to look like a classic KLH speaker) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genek Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 I ordered a yard of my best pick from Ulster Linen. It arrived this week and if I can figure out what I did with my staplegun (which I haven't seen since before we packed up to move to Portland eight years ago!) I have a spare pair of 3a frame boards I can mount it to. It's undyed, unbleached natural flax linen. We figured out a while back that it's 20ct. Here's what the loose yardage looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio AR Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 10:57 PM, JKent said: DIY designed by Johnny Richards that I wanted to look like a classic KLH speaker Jeff, I see (I'm not sure, the photo is small and not big the resolution) a custom label showing JKH, very, very well your signature on the grille of this project !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKent Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Giorgio AR said: Jeff, I see (I'm not sure, the photo is small and not big the resolution) a custom label showing JKH, very, very well your signature on the grille of this project !! Yeah. Kind of a conceit I guess. "Vanity plates" 😉 Kent (not Jeff) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar_pro Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, JKent said: Yeah. Kind of a conceit I guess. "Vanity plates" 😉 Kent (not Jeff) Ha! That's great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio AR Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 13 hours ago, JKent said: Kent (not Jeff) Sorry Kent, I was confused when I wrote, the suffix J distracted me ... still very beautiful and characterizing your label! A good listening and good weekend, Giorgio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mot Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 7:16 PM, genek said: I ordered a yard of my best pick from Ulster Linen. It arrived this week and if I can figure out what I did with my staplegun (which I haven't seen since before we packed up to move to Portland eight years ago!) I have a spare pair of 3a frame boards I can mount it to. It's undyed, unbleached natural flax linen. We figured out a while back that it's 20ct. Here's what the loose yardage looks like. Genek, this fabric looks great! Do you have a link? I've been to the Ulster site but can't find this fabric after trying to sift through the choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genek Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 It's this one: https://ulsterlinen.com/?s=Y0400NT036+&post_type=product The last three numbers are the width (36, 42 or 60 inches). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mot Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 19 hours ago, genek said: It's this one: https://ulsterlinen.com/?s=Y0400NT036+&post_type=product The last three numbers are the width (36, 42 or 60 inches). Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reza Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 https://createnostalgia.co.uk/products/lambswool-18-count-linen-permin-wichelt-fat-quarter-50cm-x-70cm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakecat Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 4 hours ago, reza said: https://createnostalgia.co.uk/products/lambswool-18-count-linen-permin-wichelt-fat-quarter-50cm-x-70cm That was used in the past but no longer being made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reza Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, lakecat said: That was used in the past but no longer being made. Bought some this morning Edit , now saying out of stock , maybe I was just lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reza Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 3:22 PM, reza said: Bought some this morning Edit , now saying out of stock , maybe I was just lucky original/new/fitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 7:16 PM, genek said: I ordered a yard of my best pick from Ulster Linen. It arrived this week and if I can figure out what I did with my staplegun (which I haven't seen since before we packed up to move to Portland eight years ago!) I have a spare pair of 3a frame boards I can mount it to. It's undyed, unbleached natural flax linen. We figured out a while back that it's 20ct. Here's what the loose yardage looks like. Why does it look tea colored on the right? Is the left the color as sent to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genek Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 The light in the photo is coming from a window opposite from me as I'm holding the swatch. The darker portion is in shadow, the lighter is in the sunlight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinsig Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 On 5/1/2022 at 9:05 AM, Pete B said: Why does it look tea colored on the right? Is the left the color as sent to you? Pete, would that be Medium Weight Oyster? The pair of 2Ax i bought have someone's old drapery material on em, so even a good cleaning isn't an option. Medium Weight Oyster Linen fabric - Y0400OY060 - Ulster Linen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 @twinsig I have not bought any yet, rather it was @genek who you should ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genek Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 It's medium weight natural. See the Feb 6 post above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 I took a closer look at the Ulster medium weight natural and it looks from the pictures to be very close to Advent cloth color, but the thread count is too high, and the typical AR cloth looks even better. I ordered one yard to see it in person and to count the TPI. Edit: This arrived and I count the TPI at 25 which is far too high for Advent grills. It is fairly open weave but not as good as the 18 TPI Irish Linen from 123Stitch, or the 19 TPI (IL041 Oatmeal) from Fabric Store.com. I did two grills many years ago with the Irish linen from 123Stitch and have them here to compare. The other fabrics are not mounted but the Irish linen looks best then, the 19 TPI, and lastly the 25 TPI from Ulster. Ulster does not provide TPI for many of their fabrics so it is difficult to determine which material is best. One more note on the IL041 19TPI is that the threads are very fine making it a very open weave. I will probably use this for all my speaker restorations that call for a white/natural fabric. It is the best I've found so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted July 14, 2022 Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 On 5/28/2021 at 6:11 PM, genek said: The 2ax's I bought new in 1975 had a finer grill cloth than most of the earlier ARs I've seen, including the early 6s I used to have. Here's a scan of some AR fabric, year unknown, and a ruler. My old eyes aren't up to counting the threads, but if anyone else wants to give it a shot... I count about 24 maybe 25 TPI, thanks for the picture. I don't like the look of such a high TPI but it is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted July 15, 2022 Report Share Posted July 15, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 7:16 PM, genek said: I ordered a yard of my best pick from Ulster Linen. It arrived this week and if I can figure out what I did with my staplegun (which I haven't seen since before we packed up to move to Portland eight years ago!) I have a spare pair of 3a frame boards I can mount it to. It's undyed, unbleached natural flax linen. We figured out a while back that it's 20ct. Here's what the loose yardage looks like. I also ordered this linen (Y0400NT036) from Ulster, it arrived today and I count 24-25 TPI not 20, not sure if it varies from batch to batch since they do not quote a number for TPI, or what might have caused the change. I like a more coarse and open weave so I'll only use this with speakers I'm certain had a higher thread count. Perhaps Dyna A-25 s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 I called Ulster yesterday to ask about thread count at about 5:30 PM, a lady answered and very abruptly said what's your name I'll call you back. Gave it a 50/50 that she'd call back. She called this morning and I asked her about thread count, she finally said that the Y0400NT036 36" wide material was in fact closer to 25 TPI, and that Y0400NT060 60" wide material was around 20 TPI She also said that the 36" wide material was slightly lighter in color than the 60" wide. So you can get 20 or 25 TPI depending on what you need, of course call to confirm that the thread counts have not changed. I might order 1 yard of the 60" wide material to see if I like it more than the IL041 from fabric-store.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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