brownie Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 what watt is the ar 1210038-ob tweeter . anyone know a suitable upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nefertem Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Hi I replaced my tweeters with a model very close to this with good results Peerless DX25TG59-04 1" Fabric Dome Tweeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKent Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 I see some on ebay for $99 OBO, some recently sold for $45 with free shipping, so why not make an offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 They are 4ohm and not 6ohm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 hours ago, nefertem said: Hi I replaced my tweeters with a model very close to this with good results Peerless DX25TG59-04 1" Fabric Dome Tweeter But they are 4ohm not 6ohm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nefertem Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 They are definitely a better option did you search to see if there are any 6 ohm tweeters out there? The resistance is not going to make much as a different because the frequency range of tweeters in general say if you used a different type of tweeters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nefertem Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Brownie I would definitely replace the caps in the crossovers if you have not yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nefertem Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 JKent with all respect to AR and your knowledge and help on this forum I never did like the original tweeters in the 93s when I first bought them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ra.ra Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 11 hours ago, brownie said: ....anyone know a suitable upgrade. Brownie, am not sure what you're saying here - - - upgrade? - - - are your tweeters non-functional, or are you dissatisfied with the originals? 5 hours ago, nefertem said: I never did like the original tweeters in the 93s when I first bought them Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but I find this statement perplexing, too. I think this family of 1-1/4" tweeters are terrific, and AR engineers must have found them quite satisfactory as well since versions of this tweeter found their way into at least a dozen speaker models over a number of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nefertem Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 Ra Ra I just felt like when I was listening to the speakers it seemed somewhat veiled in that area I had a Hartman Kardon intergrated amp and my AR Turntable with the original arm and using a nice Denon cartridge i just felt if AR used one of there tweeters in the AR 9s series it would of made a big difference. Everyone has to remember Teledyne was out to make money so using that type of tweeters helped save money (not saying it was trash just that they had better ones in stock if they wanted to use in there lower priced speakers)ps Engineers were restricted on the budget they were allowed for that particular model. and using the same tweeter or midrange woofer helped in various models helped control the cost . I worked at Apogee Acoustic for a few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 16 hours ago, nefertem said: Brownie I would definitely replace the caps in the crossovers if you have not yet where are the crossovers located in the speaker cabinet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nefertem Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 Brownie you would need to remove one of the bottom woofers to get access, I actually removed the whole crossover from the cabinet to rebuild it and upgrade the speaker terminals with banana female inputs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, nefertem said: Brownie you would need to remove one of the bottom woofers to get access, I actually removed the whole crossover from the cabinet to rebuild it and upgrade the speaker terminals with banana female inputs ok thats easy as im reconing all the woofers. thanks great help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ra.ra Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 hours ago, brownie said: ....im reconing all the woofers... Re-coning is a reasonably involved process often required due to significant damage to a driver, whereas re-foaming is relatively simple and essentially a form of periodic maintenance. I assume your work refers to re-foaming here. There seem to be a number of versions of the AR-93, so it would be helpful here if you could document the particular model you have. Noting part numbers for the 8-inch drivers and details of the crossover might be very useful. Also, it is easy to add pics to your thread (100kb jpeg files are more than satisfactory), and that is always appreciated in this forum as well as helpful for your project. 14 hours ago, nefertem said: i just felt if AR used one of there tweeters in the AR 9s series it would of made a big difference. AR-9 series?........are we talking about the same family of tweeters? I think the pic attached below is the p/n 038 tweeter that the OP has mentioned - - - this has a 3-1/2" dia. faceplate and a 2-3/8" dia. magnet. Now I recall your project after seeing this thread again - - I don't believe you had any AR drivers at all left in those speakers, is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nefertem Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 That is right Ra Ra my offer is still open to come over for a listening demonstration as I do still have my AR Turntable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nefertem Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 38 minutes ago, ra.ra said: Re-coning is a reasonably involved process often required due to significant damage to a driver, whereas re-foaming is relatively simple and essentially a form of periodic maintenance. I assume your work refers to re-foaming here. There seem to be a number of versions of the AR-93, so it would be helpful here if you could document the particular model you have. Noting part numbers for the 8-inch drivers and details of the crossover might be very useful. Also, it is easy to add pics to your thread (100kb jpeg files are more than satisfactory), and that is always appreciated in this forum as well as helpful for your project. AR-9 series?........are we talking about the same family of tweeters? I think the pic attached below is the p/n 038 tweeter that the OP has mentioned - - - this has a 3-1/2" dia. faceplate and a 2-3/8" dia. magnet. Now I recall your project after seeing this thread again - - I don't believe you had any AR drivers at all left in those speakers, is that correct? Ra Ra how does it make sense to spend 80 dollars on a pair of tweeters that cost a few dollars back in the 80s and not knowing if the ferrofluid is still good these are not the AR3 Tweeters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 On 1/5/2020 at 10:37 AM, nefertem said: Brownie you would need to remove one of the bottom woofers to get access, I actually removed the whole crossover from the cabinet to rebuild it and upgrade the speaker terminals with banana female inputs could you suggest a good brand of capacitors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyC Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 On 1/5/2020 at 1:44 PM, nefertem said: That is right Ra Ra my offer is still open to come over for a listening demonstration as I do still have my AR Turntable To clarify...you are discussing a personal project using a pair of stripped AR cabinets? You connected new drivers to the old crossovers, you are obviously happy with the sound, and you are recommending it as an "upgrade" based on your listening impressions. Glad you are happy with it, but this thread should be in the "mods and tweaks" section of the forum. You are no longer discussing a pair of AR speakers. As an aside, there is much more engineering involved in designing a speaker system than than the cost of the drivers. You could plop $100 replacement tweeters into a pair of decently designed speakers and degrade the overall performance. "Engineers on a budget" are still engineers. What are your credentials? Roy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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