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  1. I already told my son he'll be sorry he didn't properly copy his old man - mine are oak & his are walnut; they wouldn't look right sitting on top of each other - 5012o vs 5012w. Probably wouldn't even sound right!
  2. Thanks Kent (and 'argumentative' Craig) for the info about Bill Galt's & Roy's repair abilities. I'll keep it in mind for future reference. Meantime I have no way of knowing how long my set will keep performing or suit my needs. I'm an old guy and my hearing is slowly morphing into mis-hearing (so is my wife's - we have some hilarious conversations.) It may well be that the speakers will outlast me; maybe end up with someone who sends them to the dump because they're too old & big & clunky ! :(.
  3. Hi Larry. Thanks for the warning. Yes the other unit was also partly separated but I was able to re-glue just the part that was gapped. Do you have any comments about (experience of) what I took to be the partly-melted stuff at the top of the coil? I didn't have the dust cap off the second driver so don't know how that one looked - or what would be normal. It IS nice to have my stereo back. My attachment to these Advents is quite sentimental. They've been my first and only 'good' speakers for more than 40 years. My pal & I had days of fun at the time, lugging home speaker sets from the local audio store and comparing them with his ???'s as reference. Don't know if you could still do that! It was in a small friendly town. They won't be played louder than I can comfortably hear when I'm in the same room with them. When a neighbor has a noisy boombox going on what should be a quiet summer Sunday I've often thought of opening the door and cranking them up, with music I'm sure he'd despise - but I've never done it. Now I won't even think about it . But I will take them to my son's place and put them inverted on top of his identical set, just to see how that sounds. Have a good summer.
  4. For the record; my woofer is working again. I hadn't realized how much the cone was detached from the foam surround, or that nothing else keeps the voice coil centered. I guess the rattle I heard was the coil flailing against its enclosure - a sound once heard, unlikely ever to be forgotten. I'm a bit surprised now, that nobody zeroed in on that when I described it. *Bay has been a bust. The very occasional unit that came up and might have been OK was only offered by someone who wouldn't accept any contact. Didn't much matter because their ads all said they wouldn't ship outside USA. Doubtless the coil is somewhat damaged; there is some reddish-brown material around the top, that looks to have been partly melted. I couldn't detect any of the notorious 'burnt copper' smell. So I very carefully re-centered and re-foamed it and lo! it sounds OK. No rattling, scraping, scratchiness etc, etc. If there's distortion I'm not hearing it. We'll see whether - or how long - it will keep sounding good. The foam surround I bought online was very flimsy compared to the original so I re-used that. It was a bit abused by then but the glue that came with the repair kit did a good job on it. Thanks to all who offered information & advice.
  5. Yes I'm fed up with the arrogant nonsense too. Pete, I tried to message you but that didn't work. Can you confirm (message me?) that the square-magnet drivers are "original" Advent and the rounds were made by Jensen. If the point was made before, I missed it. I guess it would mean the squares are older & explain why they're harder to find. Even the other drivers I do find can be asking $70 just for postage.
  6. Thanks Pete; I'm a babe in the woods here. And thanks Analogman too - I'll assume your advice is given in good faith; but on the precautionary principle I'll assume Pete's is safer - especially as one of those websites seemed to wreak havoc with my computer, requiring a total shutdown - but maybe it was some clumsy key-combo I hit ??? Pete, are you saying don't pair a square-magnet "original" Advent woofer with a round one? That would be my own uneducated strategy. I guess I should go with your suggestion & monitor ebay unless something else shows up meantime.
  7. Thanks Craig. Although I greatly enjoy high quality reproduction of good music, I'm (obviously) not a sound engineer/hobbyist, an Advent historian or even a real audiophile . Many of the forum technical/historical comments go right past me. When you mention "new Jensen Electronics 10"s" I guess you're not talking about literally new drivers? I'm not concerned with cosmetic or brand-name authenticity, only that I finish up with an acoustically matched pair of woofers that will be easily mounted & connected in my existing cabinets and deliver sound quality as good as the original set. In my area nothing Advent is "common as dirt," or common at all if you can even find anything. I was hoping to avoid buying something unseen, at a distance; potentially unsatisfactory and with attendant shipping & handling costs. But maybe, ultimately, that's my best(!) option. Meantime the repair guy I had in mind has been hard to nail down and I've been stuck with monaural entertainment. Hey, that's what I grew up with! - on a wind-up "gramophone" with steel needles. And with trips to the post office - they had a generator - to have our "accumulator" charged up so we could hear on the radio how (officially) the war was going.
  8. No sweat; well meant I'm sure. Ebay seems scary - won't know what you've really bought till you get it & test it, and even if it's returnable that' would be a hassle. For now I'll concentrate on seeking competent repair people closer to home. Meantime my son, 2 hours south of me, is suggesting that once I get my set back in working order we should do a stacked experiment at his place with my oak set on top of his walnuts (he got them same time as mine but to match the waterbed frame he'd built for his basement hideaway). I've been teasing him that once I'm gone he'll be sorry he didn't get an oak set - they won't match!
  9. I've disconnected the damaged speaker and am listening to 'half stereo' on the other side. It's surprisingly listenable. I may have located a good repair tech here on the island but can't meet him till sometime in March. He'll be in my area & hopefully can see/hear the speaker in situ.
  10. Mine have the fuse and say Cambridge MA. Labelled 5012/0 with serial nos xo 016191 & 016219. Did I mention how pretty they are? I've messaged you about the Vancouver driver for sale.
  11. larrybody; great thanks for your message. The front and dimensions of your woofer look exactly right. Personally I don't know if the different magnet is a significant issue in terms of compatibility of the two woofers - mine being square & flat where yours is round & domed. Lacking specific/technical knowledge I'm quite unsure. Same is true about the 4.5 reading on your meter. I welcome your coments on this and those of any knowledgeable others who'd like to "jump in." If you want to talk about price, shipping costs to B.C. etc would you prefer using private messages? If you care to enlighten me (and others watching) about correct/incorrect foam installation, (or anything else :)) by all means do. Alexander (Edzll)
  12. Looking for that switch ........
  13. Thanks A(a)dams. By now, mostly thanks to yourself, I've got a pretty good feel for which advertised drivers are the one I need, which ones are definitely not, and which ones I need more info about. - including front & rear photos, preferably with illustrated front measurements. I'm getting advice from several folks now - thanks all - so I'll just mostly address myself to the forum; maybe repeating a few things I said before that have been skipped over :). The driver in question makes horrid rattling noises on loud low-frequencies after being accidentally subjected to a burst of ear-shattering noise. If I push on the cone it makes a scraping noise. I'm on Vancouver Island so US postage & dollar premium - ours is $0.80 - could be an issue in pricing repairs/replacement. Closest repair guy I can find online is in Victoria; about 3 hr drive south so not too bad but I don't know beans about him. I won't consider 'D.I.M.yself' speaker repairs. I've still been using both speakers at modest volume with no audible distortion but I'd guess Adams may be right in saying I could be doing further damage . I guess I'll disconnect the bad one. Would there be any danger in connecting both of the amp's R&L speaker outputs together, going to one speaker ''set' (i.e. tweet & woof)? Kind of effectively mono delivered to one side.'
  14. "If your vision is legal for driving you can see the difference at 50ft." Haha, yes. But I often see the speakers described as not only 'Small Advents' but also 'bookshelf speakers' ??? They wouldn't be supported by any bookshelves I've ever owned; although I did at one time have the courage to wall-hang then with very strong picture wire. Despite claims that "walnut vinyl" is the most handsome cabinet finish of all, let me tell you that mine are finished with blond oak veneer - not vinyl - and are THE most handsome that anyone could possibly imagine! I may get around to providing photo evidence of their beauty. They were bought in Prince George, B.C. in the very early 80s. Hmm. Maybe a pair of oak veneered New Advents is so rare as to be worth thousands ?? or not. Right now I'm not finding that recognisable-at-50-feet woofer except maybe the one in Sacramento. It's recognisable from the front but in the back view has a different round & domed magnet (mine is square & flat, with no identifying marks I think.) And the Sacramento one is described as 10" woofer in 12" frame, which tends to confuse me further. (Kent - same goes for one of those you pointed to; and the one that you were dubious about is definitely not a drop-in replacement .) Also there is some inconsistency about advertised impedance - 8 ohms or 6? As an irrelevant aside, the mounting holes in my drivers are plain round holes that fit the screws quite snugly. The pictures I see of (later?) drivers have slotted holes. Was this a sign of deteriorating quality control, requiring some assembly tolerance? I'm joking really, but mine really are not slotted. This thread is getting pretty long (I'm not complaining) so I think I'll start a fresh topic simply asking if anyone has, or can point me to, the correct driver for sale.
  15. Yes, I now appreciate more, why you asked for a photo.
  16. So now I have another question (of course!) - When people talk about "large Advent" speakers are they actually referring to the same ones I have, in a cabinet about 11-3/4" x 14-1/2" x 26-1/2" high? They were called "New Advent" when I bought them, and are so labelled at lower left front. I've been dismissing ads for Large Advent drivers because I imagined "large Advents" must be something different from mine - which Advent themselves called "New Advent." Oh but wait; I just saw an illustration on line, looks like mine, but the plaque just says "Advent," not "New Advent." It seems any technical problems might be easier to sort out than those of inconsistent naming & maybe unclear communication. But isn't it ever so?? It can get quite frustrating. I'll likely feel better about it in the morning; especially in view of the fact that folks on here are so very, very helpful. Time for a nightcap (Rusty Nail) then bed.
  17. Ah, thanks (I think.) So my saga continues .........
  18. That surely is the one. Thank you so much for clearing up my confusion. I'd found some before but thought they were the wrong size, meant for some other Advent "box." We're going out for the evening - a previously booked free dinner for local old farts; can't miss it! You've been very helpful, and not easily discouraged. BTW, I don't seriously imagine I should think about DIY voice coil repair Alexander (Edzll's real name.)
  19. Here it is: The overall dimension of the odd-shaped face plate is about 11 inches.
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