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  2. The Electronic Subwoofer

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    49 minutes ago, JKent said:

    I do have another but I also have the DB Systems preamp and tone control, which includes a bass boost https://www.dbsystemsaudio.com/DB-5a.jpg so the ESW is kinda superfluous.

    I think the active Allison forum was on Yahoo. I've never been on Facebook.

    My tech told me what to look for in a transformer but I haven't found one yet. Maybe I beed to watch for a "parts only" ESW or maybe put it on Ebay and hope someone in Europe wants it. In the meantime, think I'll try our For Sale section.

    I’m not a Facebook subscriber, but one day I was looking for pictures of Allison‘s and realized the bulk of them were coming from Facebook. With a little bit of looking, I was able to see a lot of the pictures there and there are many without actually logging on or creating an account….. and yes, you’re right about Yahoo, and then another spin off was established at a place that I can’t recall which was the latest. The guys who know the most about things like the ESW were there, which is why I brought it up.

     you’re right about Yahoo, and then another spin off was established at a place that I can’t recall which was the latest. The guys who know the most about things like the ESW were there, which is why I brought it up.

     

    IMHO THE ESW Was a novel approach decades ago, but in the 21st-century with a limitless option of available subwoofers I feel that’s a superior approach over making these very very old loudspeakers work even harder. After restoring my own Allisons I’m very content to let them rest easy and have the subwoofer do the work.

  3. The Electronic Subwoofer

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    On 2/5/2024 at 10:15 PM, JKent said:

    Bought another one of these last April. Ebay seller wrote "Seems to have a hum. Not sure what’s going on with it" so I took a chance. Did a full recap and no improvement so I took it to a pro. He checked it out, then noticed the VERY small print: 240 Volts AC. Seems I got a European model (?). I may look into a new transformer.

    220V.jpg

    Big following for Allison acoustics overseas back in the glory days (Italy especially).

    when you’re on eBay, the devil is in the details. Sorry to hear about your situation. I think today Facebook is the place where the most activity for Allison fans exists. It’s been so long the other form I used to participate in escapes me as to the name but I would try to hook up with some of those guys before I went, changing something as significant as a transformer it could be a lot more to it than that, if you’re that hot for another one, you might be better off continuing on with eBay and be sure you got the American version first. 

  4. Rubber surrounds for RA Mini Reference...vs more foam?

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    On 1/28/2024 at 4:57 PM, Seahawk57 said:

    Any thoughts about re-doing surrounds in more durable rubber... rather than rotting foam again?

    Got two pairs that require some 💕.

    Thanks.

    Today’s newer foam surrounds will hold up virtually as long as rubber.

    RA did nothing without a reason and rubber surrounds will work but degrade the performance.

    Had my woofers refoamed over 10 years ago and they are as compliant (so far) as the day they were done.

  5. AR-5 Replacement Woofer Size

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    14 hours ago, sfoster137 said:

    Thanks for this great story. I'm a drummer myself, my wife plays trombone, and my mom played piano. I'm looking forward to getting the 5's in shape and will keep my eye out for the proper woofer. I had one, but they wouldn't ship to Canada :(

    I once had a bit of shipping trouble with eBay between US and Canada but a happy ending at least. Selling from the United States and I was very specific about US only a fella from Canada ended up buying the amplifier I was selling. Turned out he had a post office arrangement in the United Statesand the transaction turned out to be successful.

     

    For a while we were an “AR FAMILY” LOL. 2 AR, integrated amplifiers. (my brother and I.) a pair of 2A from 1963. 4x and my 2ax. I eventually migrated to Allison’s, but the whole thing was a lot of fun.

  6. AR-5 Replacement Woofer Size

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    On 1/13/2024 at 12:56 PM, sfoster137 said:

    Thank you for the replies. This was just what I was looking for. I'll start the hunt for a proper replacement woofer and use the 2ax in the meantime. I am intending on replacing the capacitors and will consider the L-pads and tweeter rebuild. The drivers all sound good, though the one woofer I did get desperately needs a new surround. The pots are also terrible which further supports the L-pads. The pots in the 2ax's I refurbished were bad at first, but opening them up and cleaning really brought them back. 

    Your thread has taken me on a trip down memory lane regarding the AR five.

     

    Your thread has taken me on a trip down memory lane regarding the AR five.

     

    The first pair of AR that I owned were BRAND NEW 2ax’s. 
    They  were gifts from my very supportive parents  and all of us were musicians… Dad on trombone, mom on piano, and my self on drums. 
    those were beautiful and incredibly thoughtful gifts given to me, but later on given the choice and I was out shopping lol I would’ve gone for the AR5 But after so many years, I can’t recall why.

    if I were you, I would maintain an ongoing eBay search for a second pair of fives so you would have yourself some spare parts. I did such a thing for my own needs and after 10 years of collecting acquired enough to last lifetime… More than worth it if you’re hooked on the sound.

  8. Allison IC-20'S (in original boxes for 20 years!)

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    On 9/7/2015 at 12:36 PM, tysontom said:

    Bill, I'm with you on this site. It is stable, reliable and organized. Hope others from Yahoo join in as well.

     

    —Tom Tyson

    Hope you’re well, Tom!

    Just looking back at some of these old posts….. It was interesting, (but not surprising) to find what little is left of Allison information these days, appears to be primarily on Facebook. Not a Facebook member, But just viewing on the Internet without logging in to that site Yeilds more pictures than any place else.

  10. AR-2ax woofer voice coil blown

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    On 11/2/2023 at 12:27 PM, gahamby said:

    I need some advice on repair/replacement of these woofers. I have emailed Millersound and have received no reply. Their phone is constantly busy. Are they still in business?

    Who else in the Eastern US re-cones speakers? Are re-cone kits available?

    Thanks GH

    IMG_1044.jpeg

    https://www.simplyspeakers.com
     

    excellent and reasonable…… Bill Legall at Millersound did a lot of work for me, but I use these guys once also on recommendation and they did a great job… Worth a try if you run dry with your other options

  11. Allison IC-20'S (in original boxes for 20 years!)

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    Nothing unusual for Allison acoustics……

    and really True for any high-quality time, honored loudspeaker system, where the latest in electronics amplifiers playback systems and preamps fall out of favor, the speakers just keep getting better if well cared for.

    here in 2023 I’m enjoying the latest benefits that are coming from my Panasonic 820 ultra HD Blu-ray player couple with loud speakers from 1987 lol a match made in heaven!

  12. Allison's at the market

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    On 10/1/2023 at 10:15 AM, JeffS said:

    A rare sighting at the Kutztown Radio Show a couple of weeks ago, three pairs of Allison's for sale and all in great shape. The seller had pairs of AL115's, LC110's and Allison:Fours, and a pair of Allison:Ones off site about an hour away if there was an interested buyer. According to the seller, the AL115's, LC110's, and Allison:Fours had all had their woofers refurbished by Millersound and they looked like new. The first picture was taken by Audiokarma member AdamAnt316, and the picture of the Allison:Four was taken by me after I pulled it out of the box.

    I was interested in the Fours, but I already have a pair and the seller was asking $500, so I passed.

    Allisons at Kutztown (AdamAnt316).png

    Allison-Four at Kutztown.png

    Hi Jeff,

    Yeah those Allison’s are looking sweet!

    …..And even without looking I know how the woofers are if Bill Legall had his hands on them. He did a ton of work for me over the past 10 years.

  13. Assembly Jig found inside a AR-4X

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    On 9/12/2023 at 1:36 PM, Tom H. said:

    Great stories, baffled Loudspeaker. I thought only white van speakers had bricks in them!

    I wonder if the assembler on our AR-4x's went to sleep that night, wondering where that lost jig ended up that day.

    Yep…… Not a stranger to little surprises lurking inside a sealed enclosure.

    I had one with a rattle And when I opened it up to investigate, I found the entire crossover network, (normally glued to the rear of the cabinet,) had entirely come away. The rattle was not heard during operation, but only when the thing was moved around, as the crossover had fallen into the fiberglass…..so just sat there while it was running, and that was good.

     

    Another speaker had a spare grommet laying inside the bottom of the cabinet.(The ones used to secure a grill frame to the exterior. ) I also discovered a small piece of particleboard, had broken off during the original assembly process so the assembler Resorted to a hollow wall anchor to fill the void rather than replacing the wood. It works perfectly, but too much of a task to restore, except by a pro.

  14. Older AR's or, just buy new speakers?

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    $10,000.00
    + $450.00 shipping…….
     
    I had no interest at all in that eBay pair of A1’s…… Until I read further and found out that the shipping was only 450 bucks. Damn, if I didn’t nearly go for it.
     
    All kidding aside (well perhaps not) this is still a free country and you can ask whatever you like!
     
    These days you can buy an awful lot of sound for 10,000 bucks

  15. Allison IC-20'S (in original boxes for 20 years!)

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    On 10/1/2023 at 12:13 PM, samberger0357 said:

    It happens to the best of them. My hope is that whatever is out there in the wilds is dealt with properly when the time comes, rather then on a curb waiting for bulky garbage pickup.

    When my time came to part with the Allison:One it started out beautifully and they sold quick rather than going to trash.

    The buyer, on the other hand turned out to be trash……an idiot who neither fully read my advertisement on EBay or studied the dozen clearly posted photos. I got my price but a war followed that had me appealing to EBay to block the seller from attacking me through the eBay message system. I won out but it was no picnic.

  16. Allison IC-20'S (in original boxes for 20 years!)

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    Posted · Edited by newandold
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    On 9/24/2023 at 8:20 PM, samberger0357 said:

    I see I misunderstood your post. Whew! Thought I'd missed my opportunity.

     

    Whoever owns these at this point seemingly are holding on to them. I never see anything online from current owners except you, but then again i hardly ever see anything current written about Allison speakers other then once in a while on the Google mail group. Even then it's very rare.

     

    Indeed, and it is sad to see Allison acoustics go away with barely a trace now. Original company is gone for decades.

    All of the hype developed over the years with respect to the IC 20 came about with one production run of 100 cabinets ordered by Roy Allison back in the day. Never did it go beyond that.

    The only thing that was more rare…..a handful of prototypes like the IC 10 and a few overseas production units of other designs that were never available in the USA. I found one of those available in the Ukraine that was listed on eBay under my worldwide search. I thought the guy was pulling my leg until I took a good look at it and it did appear to be legit components like the AL 115 in a different configuration. 

  17. Allison IC-20'S (in original boxes for 20 years!)

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    1 hour ago, samberger0357 said:

    What?? I have an Ebay notification for those, and never saw one pair for sale. Bizarre. I also look occasionally, and it's always the same Two's(have been there forever), some 7's, 4's, but no One's, and never IC-20's.
     

    Something from across the country probably wouldn't be realistic anyway but man, if you ever know or see a pair come up, please feel free to send a message to me.

    Here’s the timeline that may explain why you missed the listings(a very long time ago now indeed)

     

    I picked mine up, not far from where they were built around this time in 2012.

    The prior listings were in and around at four year time period before that.

    that last pair, the debauchery from Huntington came after my purchase. Too painful to look at for very long.

  18. Allison IC-20'S (in original boxes for 20 years!)

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    On 9/11/2023 at 3:36 PM, samberger0357 said:

    Don't see A3's come up at all. And if I ever have the opportunity to buy a pair of IC-20's, I will.

    Three pair of 20s came up on eBay during the time  When I became a serious buyer and the third pair were the ones I happily ended up with.

     

    Later on there was a fourth from Huntington Long Island. Just watched for curiosity, but they were very painful to look at indeed, with a creative owner in hand who decided he would notch out the woofer accommodations to hold 12 inch rather than 10 inch drivers. What a disaster. For such a rare speaker to fall into the hands of Frankenstein. They were literally gutted out in the most frightening manner…… To each his own

  21. Allison IC-20'S (in original boxes for 20 years!)

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    On 8/9/2023 at 10:37 AM, newandold said:

    …… An interesting item indeed to pop up on eBay……… Useless to anyone, except someone who is in possession of a pair of Allisons with image control modules installed… Which is just about nobody these days lol

    ….. it has not sold of course.

    It’s been pretty sad over the last decade or so, watching what’s left of used Allison whatever diminishing to slim Pickens. Things that used to sell within a few weeks or so, now sitting on places like eBay for years. of course, that has everything to do with the seller being either serious or a dreamer.

  25. Allison IC-20'S (in original boxes for 20 years!)

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    4 minutes ago, samberger0357 said:

    I haven't seen Three's, just Two's. Of course, I'd much prefer to find a pair locally then to deal with somebody shipping them. And finding a pair of sale in CA is near impossible. That said, I try to keep my eyes and ears open and with many, many other speakers in my possession, I can afford to be very patient.

    Oh, I didn’t realize you were on the West Coast that makes local pick up a tough one. I’m a New Yorker and even here the pickings are very scarce these days that being said, if I weren’t here, the pair I have now would certainly not be in my possession.

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