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  1. On 10/12/2021 at 5:12 AM, ShadowGoat said:

    Thanks for the tips. My wife wants me to keep them as well. There’s just these Bozaks I’m looking at… haha 

    I actually have the t nut and screw, somewhere, and could probably repair it. 
    The tweeters work. They are the kind with the paper covers, dimpled. The paper was a little torn on one when I got them. I thought they were usually dimpled like that? They’re working ok I guess (who knows about the ferrofluid), but I had to get used to their sound since I was so used to Klipsch. I was like; “Oh, that’s what other tweeters sound like”

    Thanks again. 

    2C5BABD4-ED71-44EC-9110-30EC9A296A36.thumb.jpeg.bc15494b979eb9565186dffc74cce553.jpegAs a serious collector, it took years to come up with undimpled/ un damaged domed drivers. This is the remaining one of two I bought years ago. The other went out with my original Allison Ones sold off in 2012.

  2. 3 hours ago, ShadowGoat said:

    Yes, one of the the threads came out with the screw, unfortunately. I had no idea what these are worth since I couldn’t even find a photo of them, let alone a sold listing. I’ve lowered the price and will lower it again, but I’m fine keeping them too. They do sound very nice. I like how the soundstage is vertical/elevated over my stereo - recessed but in a smooth, non-fatiguing way. My Klipsch are more low and in front. Anyway, thanks!

    Listening without fatigue is an “Allison Trademark” so to speak!

    First off, I would keep them, if I were you….

    They’ve got problems, but the good news is only six drivers.

    With only 2 tweeters, restoration and maintenance is less daunting then the Allison’s with multiple driver arrays. Usable, viable Allison drivers have never been tougher to come up with than today.

    A proper seal of the cabinet is essential to optimum bass response. That’s why the missing midrange hardware is so important. The midrange doesn’t rely on the internal airspace of the cabinet because it’s a pulsating dome and sealed to the outside, but the woofer does.

     I would bet the farm that if you take the woofer out of that cabinet and fish around on the bottom, you will find the threaded “T nut” that holds the machine screw for the midrange driver. It may even be stuck on the woofer magnet 🧲 when it pushed out. Plastic wood can restore the area where the T nut goes, or Home Depot actually carries them.

    Tweeters still work? Mashed.

     If they do, there are little tricks to subtly pull the domes out to be reasonable esthetically. You can pull out gently with a piece of tape, or pierce it with a needle, and pull out gently then seal it with a spot of glue.

  3. 20 hours ago, ShadowGoat said:

    Thanks for the response. I’ve decided to sell these. Would anyone on here be interested?

    Best of luck to you. You’re starting price IMHO (Ebay) is High by 500.00.

    You can get some tips and advice from here if you’re serious about unloading them…also looks like a missing screw on one midrange. Am I seeing that correctly?

  4. 59 minutes ago, JeffS said:

    If I were shopping for a replacement woofer for my Allison:Four, and I could choose between woofers that were newer and had been mounted and stored forward facing as in the LC models, or woofers that were older and mounted and stored facing upward with deteriorated surrounds, I'd buy the newer woofer. Having said that, I would give preference to a woofer that came from a Four.

    You put a fine point on what I called "spider sag" and we should all use caution when using these older drivers with original spiders.

    My experience tells me this: I had a pair of Allison:Sevens that I installed new surrounds on about 15 years ago. They came back to me about 6 months ago for a cabinet refresh. I checked the condition of the surrounds and with them showing no signs of deterioration, I connected them to an amplifier rated at 400W/ch into 4 ohms. I took the volume up. No problems, and they sounded great. Now, I wasn't driving them hard enough to make the clip lights flash, nor would I with any 8" woofer.

    10 years ago I put new surrounds on my Allison:Fours. I use them with a 150W/ch amplifier with no problems.

    If someone using these Allison 8" models follows the placement recommendations, doesn't add any bass boost, and uses a reasonable amplifier (say, 100-150 W/ch), things should be fine. As you've said in the past, if you want deeper bass while using these speakers, add a subwoofer. 

     

    I understand now where you’re coming from regarding the “sag”!

    An Allison user on another forum had concerns about the midrange sagging out of alignment (age related). He made a project out of flipping all of his 180 degrees to counteract this. I felt personally, it was a case in point of overthinking a potential issue. ….that with normal use they would be just fine. That being said, nothing lasts forever….

    With yours I would think similarly, in that the woofers excursion is upward when operating, so sagging shouldn’t be an issue. Rigidity is something else, where by the spider cloth gets weak with age, the woofer is free to travel farther than it’s design was intended, having only the surround to keep it in check.

  5. 10 hours ago, JeffS said:

    The useful spreadsheet that LesE provides nicely outlines the differences among the Allison woofers. Thanks.

    Given the information here, if I were trying to find a replacement for an Allison:Four, the only woofer I would avoid from the two-ways is the Allison:Six which has a voice coil Xmax of 0.1625" compared to the 0.25" of the others. I might also give preference to the LC models, whose woofers would have less potential spider sag than the others.

    Could you elaborate on what you mean regarding “spider sag”?

     I have been a bug on Allison spiders within the woofers for years.

    I have a lot of experience, going after aging spiders in these drivers. 
    For most, the thinking seems to be to just refoam  the speaker and you’re good. 
    That’s ok if a driver is perhaps 15 years old or even more.  But if it’s 43 years old, you should think again.

    The spider can LOOK fine, but they lose compliance over the years, making it easier to bottom out.

    The surround and the spider work together to keep the excursion in check.

  6. 2 hours ago, Aadams said:

    “When making minimum power recommendations, I think AR assumed that the serious listener would be in a quiet room, with the speakers and that equalizer controls would be used judiciously.   In fact, all decent full- range speakers for the home, sound the same when you listen from abnormal distances or from the next room, or listen through walls.  Nuance is gone.  The only difference left is loudness per watt.  Abnormal listening requires more watts. Another significant variable is the difference in our hearing acuity and musical taste which could lead to overemphasis of certain frequency bands using an equalizer; for example, bass boost that enhances percussive effects can seriously increase wattage peaks but does not increase the actual dynamic range of the recording.  I agree more watts are better, but the actual amount needed is not nearly what we frequently imagine.”

    Lots of interesting conjecture here, most of which I respectfully part company with

     

  7. On 2/20/2019 at 11:09 AM, mikezohsix said:

    Hi Bill -

    Think I've contacted you before about your IC20's.  The idea of owning something like them has never let go since the day I got my new-to-me A:1's working correctly.  Short story on them, they turned up in CL, about 3 hours from my house, but not too far from my dad, so made a trip to pick them up.  Got them home, and was very disappointed in the sound, just no life.  A friend of mine at work, also active here, Teknofossil, had the schematic.  Turned out most of the drivers were not wired correctly, so the "pairs" were fighting each other rather than work together.  Fixed the wiring, and love at first listen - they're playing Cat Stevens as I type this!

    I retired last week, and am looking for projects.  Over the last 18 months or so I collected some A:1 tweeters and was given four mids and some common A:1 to IC20 cross over components (again by Teknofossil - thanks Tom!) with the idea that I'd build "tops" for my A:1's that would mimic the IC20, with a new cross over of course.  This would be a quick and reversible path to at least get a feel for whether I'd want to build IC20 cabinets.

    So with all that said, would you provide the center to center distance of the MTTM array from you speakers?

    This will give me the cabinet dimensions for my "tops", to start my project.

    Many thanks,

    Mike

    16 inches….

  8. On 9/26/2021 at 3:25 AM, Giorgio AR said:

    Wonderful tale of a story of two generations, nice to see dad Marsi working manually in construction: let's remember the effort of those who built the cities we live in now and the sacrifice made to give a better life to future generations, how much sacrifice and effort they have made our parents.

    Frank, from the history of your family I understand why you keep everything you have bought in HiFi in over 50 years of passion: each purchase cost effort and sacrifice (at the time also the objects, in this case HiFi equipment were built to last decades and be easily repaired to work again giving new satisfaction for years): people now quickly replace any item either because it soon becomes "old" or breaks and needs to be replaced or is out of date!
    We preserve and appreciate what other people designed and built years and years ago: these objects have exceeded the life of those who built them as a testimony of the goodness of past projects!

    To top it off my currently running pair of AR3a play with McIntosh Mac4280: 100w X 2 at 4 ohms, AR LSTs are provisionally paired with a 40w x 2 tube amp.
    I often change the electronics in rotation, however satisfied with all the combinations, the sound pressures obtained change, the quality and AR sound always remains!

    Mac4280 & AR3a

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    Pioneer C21, Nuova Elettronica tube amp. & AR LST

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    AR speakers: AR10TT MK2 are related to McIntosh Mc2105

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    Nice! To This day I’ve never had the chance to compare the LST’s to my IC20’s

  9. 36 minutes ago, frankmarsi said:

    That's good to hear.

    I have retained every piece of audio equipment I bought since 1967.  Including the Dynaco PAS-3X, kit I built, a ST-35 tube amp, ST-120 kit I built and all of the Phase Linear amps and pre-amps I bought when I retired in the early 2000's. I even have the new then Shure cartridges from the start in 1967. Though I started fooling around with old radios found in the neighborhoods trash cans or the ones my father messed around with. A Shure M3D, M55, M91ED, Empire SE/X , a Shure Type III, Shure Type IV.

    Let's not forget every AR speaker also. Of course every vinyl disk I bought since including the first disk I had to have because the tune was so catchy back in 1961-62 of the Ventures, 'Walk Don't Run', a few 45RPM in much played condition like Louie, Louie by the Kingsmen, Green Onions by Booker T and the MG's, etc. At the age I was at of 11-12, my weekly allowance was all of 10 cents, I to save up for weeks to afford a "AMT" model car to build. It did take time to save up unless I was thrown a .50 cents to a $1.00 by a visiting relatives or my parents had a little to throw my way every once in a while of like a couple of dollars. Coming from a family that began in 1930 living in Bed-Sty, Brooklyn there was never any extra money. Money only went for necessities primarily and living expenses, gas, electric, food and car fare though we all walked where ever we had to be. Mother made my pants and suits and my 3 older sisters skirts and blouses. Life was very tough for depression time immigrants and everyone before that, some did well, some barely recovered. Mother worked in a sweat-shop on a sewing machine making blouses and related clothing, my father worked on 125 Street and Lenox Ave. around 125th. St. as a 'timber-man' shoring-up the building's sidewalks and basements on either side of the street as the steam-shovel dug the subway tunnels right down the middle of the street. The sidewalks and curbs and actual buildings on either side of the street/hole had to be supported with 12"X12" timbers so the buildings would not collapse into the huge hole they were digging as NYC continually expanded it's subways. Luckily for me I was born in 1949 four years after WW II had ended and the country was on a roll during the 1950's so, my life was made better for me by my older siblings and my parents and a flourishing economy. WE all loved AMERICA dearly.  Life back then for mostly everyone was difficult and certainly very different than it is today.

    I have a couple of early photos of my father using a two-man handled saw because chain saws were probably rare and or a new, yet to be manufactured tool. He had two huge two-man saws however, someone stole them out of the garage. Call me a hoarder in todays terms but, when family began, one repaired, repurposed objects when broken or kept them for parts and I was taught those same things. Metals were always held onto especially. All of the family's food was made from scratch, left-overs saved for tomorrow's side dish.

    And "newandold" coming from small discarded kitchen tube radios, junked TVs with one 12 inch was the 'norm' for me as my starting point.  When I decided to go solid-state in 1972, it really wasn't wide-spread like today. Transistors are still not so widely used or even known of by the general public. Even the phenomenal  Bob Carver was forced to use Delco transistors that GM was using in their truck ignitions as many transistors were yet to be develpoed that could handle high voltage. Luckily, my rebuilt PL-700s use more modern "On-Semi"/"Motorola"  power-transistors with a larger "SOA' and the two amps were rebuilt by one of the last PL gurus in Washington state.

    The way I talk, one would think it not out the realm of possibilities for me to buy a larger burial plot so I could take my LST's with me. I don't know what others feel about their speakers but, what I own was a long time in coming to me and the attraction has never left me. Though I have to admit, this whole present issue of the virus, political unrest and the discourse of many things through-out the world has really set me back where I rarely do any listening these days- I sure hope that passes soon. 

    BELOW: My father is on the right wearing the plaid shirt cutting a heavy timber around 1927 to 1930, just before the depression hit.  He was 18 to 21 year old and fresh off the boat a couple of years before that. Notice construction clothing was very different back then. He told me stories of when fellow workers would become injured and then they were finished as workmen's comp and insurance for the working class was non-existent. He told me that if you got hurt, you and your family were finished. 

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    Frank,

    That is an amazing story and historical accounting (I loved the photograph!) I do “travel” quite a bit lighter than yourself, especially because we are contemplating a move possibly in the next year or so.

    My gear constantly evolves and when it does, the older is either used up, sold off or both.

  10. On 9/18/2021 at 11:54 AM, frankmarsi said:

     

    “Power to the People, Power to My Speakers” or: AR speakers are best Listened and Enjoyed with High-Power Amplification.

    About 50 years ago when I was a young man doing everything I could do to reach the level of better and higher fidelity in my listening, I purchased in kit form, what at the time was considered almost high power. At the time I was barely enjoying my brand new AR-3a’s because although musical instruments and voice never sounded more realistic in sound-quality because of their quality, something was sorely missing.

    One interesting aspect that I noticed was I had to almost make a concentrated effort to hear cymbals and though they were seemingly there occasionally, they still weren’t vivid or crashing tingly sounding as I knew they sounded in person in the bands I had played in from 1964 onto ’73 or at concerts I had gone to. Nor did cymbals or higher register frequencies from different musical instrument’s leading and trailing edges in those ranges as I typically heard in a live performance. So, I obviously knew that in order to get more sound in the treble range I needed to turn up that tone-control but, that raised the noise-level and wasn’t very natural sounding and off balance to the overall sound. I lived that reality for a number of months all the while I was continuously reading more and more information on the benefits of good sounding balance music systems. Every chance I got, I also continued taking trips to the too few stereo stores in the boro in which I lived and on many a good day traveled by boat and subway to visit the numerous stereo stores in the boro of Manhattan, NYC which I actually started doing in 1967. This afforded me the run-in’s with eager and sometimes pushy salesmen who were more than willing to use the ‘switching’-boards’ that had the fun ability to switch between different amplifiers and speakers, turntables.  My approach was to specifically hone in on my favorites of components and speakers and to immediately request what I wanted to hear.

     

    ‘What it was like in the early '70s’:

    In those early years there was a new ‘phenom’ creating a stir in the then glorious world of high-fidelity. It was something that was creating somewhat of a stir for some folks while still creating a degree of confusion and I’ll tell you why.

    As far back in 1971 and before, the general public was still relying upon anywhere generally speaking from 15 to 35 watts per-channel to power their stereos. That amount of watts was pretty much the going number for most folks. If someone had 75WPC which was not common, that person was big-timing-it. The knowledge of the benefits of higher-fidelity due to higher watts was relatively unknown to the masses. Besides, even though AR Corp. a number of years earlier had reached the amazing status of holding almost one-third of market-share in consumer speakers sales, the awareness or even the known necessity of high-power amplifiers was something most had no concern of even though in that and earlier period AR’s were grossly listened to with under-powered amplifiers. Much like some do today, many raise their chins in a posturing defiance insisting that their stereos sound "great" as is and certainly there is no need to play their music any louder than they do at home already. Or, not unless it was New Year's Eve and the neighbors and family were over tearing up the rug and spilling drinks on the living room floor, who needed more watts?

    I’ll never forget the moment I finished building my new and not common to most, transistor amplifler (back then it was: "gee, no tubes for once").  I was now rolling in the upper echelon of ‘real’ high-fidelity because everything I read before that moment indicated that to reproduce the lower registers of bass, it required more watts and to render cymbals cleanly and clearly along with other high frequencies would all sound better if an amplifier wasn’t struggling to make the power necessary to reproduce those frequencies. An under-powered amplifier would tend to clip or distort, and sound thin therefore, modifying the original reproduced sound and not sounding realistic. With a small amp, and this apparent ’small-ness’ of sound, I wasn’t a happy listener. Mind you, I’m not implying loud. I’m talking bigger, fuller, more emotionally involving, where music has the ability to touch the heart and inspire but, with the small amp all that wasn’t there and fully realized.

     

    ‘With the hope of the future, better things will come’.

    By approximately the close of the ‘60s the Crown Corp. who, known for excellent professional-studio 10-1/2” tape recorders came out with an improvement on the 1960s entry of the D-60 amplifier except,  for their new entry the D-300 produced a huge (at the time), 150 watts per-channel RMS @ 8ohms. This new revelation was great except for the sometimes evident audible grainy-ness and at times stringent high-frequencies that seemed to be by-products of the ‘new’ solid-state devices being used known as the transistor. Consequently, that Crown amp was one of the only of it’s type and for a short time notable in the spread of a new dimension of stereo at the time. That was the ability to make the stereo-typical (pun intended) stereo to come-alive and reproduce and present music in a more realistic fashion. With-in a years time, a young enterprising physicist from this county’s west coast devised a similar newer design with even more power of 350wpc @8 ohms. With a fair amount of advertising Bob Carver had unleashed upon the world a evolutionary giant step in the furthering of stereo sound to offer even more realism and coming closer to the original musical experience.

     

    ‘One Thing for Certain’

    With-in less than 24 months Mr. Carver introduced a 350 WPC ampliflier and later a 200WPC amp and a very innovative and excellent sounding pre-amplifier. Shortly thereafter other major companies from the USA and abroad came out with their versions of high-powered amplifiers and more flexible pre-amps, better turntables, improved phono-cartridges and cables. It was considered part of the “Golden-Era” of high-fidelity. The “Power-Wars”  ensued and the race was on. More and more consumers were buying into high-power. Many other speaker manufacturers were coming out with acoustic-suspension speakers because now, the higher power necessary to realistically reproduce sound was available . And, these same manufacturers also up-ing their game by manufacturing higher power amplifiers also.

     

    “Forgive Them for They Know Not What They Do

    There are some individuals on this forum and other forums that will and do either dismiss and dispute most of what I’ve said here. Though to me, I've  been a major proponent (AKA fanboy) of AR speakers judiciously powered with high-power amplification since 1974,(what were you listening to?).  I firmly believe that anyone who disagrees with my rants is primarily due to the fact that they themselves don't use anything over 200WPC.

    Back In 1971, I hooked-up my brand new AR-3a speakers with a low watt Dynaco ST-35 amplifier @ 17.5 WPC hoping for the best and I was very disappointed until a few months painfully went by and I bought into another amp. Hey, great sound was all pretty new to me, I was in the process of learning, even if I knew enough already to buy AR-3a’s.

    So, in less than a few months, I excitedly purchased and built a Dynaco ST-120 kit that promised 60WPC RMS with a pedal to the metal and balls to the wall 67WPC RMS at clipping. In a very short time I realized my satisfaction level was only ever so slightly elevated. This newer purchase only gave me slightly bigger bass and only slightly more realistic sounding higher frequencies in terms of ‘size’ or volume. However, that lousy amp was a mistake of a purchase. I ended up tearing it down and rebuilding major parts of it several times. By mid-late 1974 I bought my first Phase Linear PL-400 and was extremely happy ever since. In 2009 there came two PL-700's and there I rest to this day.

     

    ‘Afraid of the Watts?’ ‘Why?’

    The ‘pushers’ of anything lower than 150+WPC @8 ohms with an AR-3a speaker are with-in the group of non-cognoscenti who more than likely have never spent adequate time intently listening to a system that approaches the realistic musical levels and excitement that the use of high-power with inefficient speakers affords. You’ll have nothing to fear but, the ‘new’ level of enlightened enjoyment.

    Below a popular advertising piece right around the same times that I’ve spoken of. By 1972 through the end of and beyond into the early 1980’s many folks were to become believers and are certain of the ways of achieving a higher degree of reproduced musical quality because of higher amp power.

    P.S. To JKent, I recall quite a few years ago a few folks using the term “Big Watts” or last week someone said “Mac-watts” when referring to their amps but, in all seriousness, there is no valid measurement either electrically or otherwise that can be measured and called ‘Big-Watts’. And if this misleading expression is valid, please explain to me and others what is meant by big-watts? Is the bass bigger, fuller, the treble higher, brighter, is it a particulat flavor or color? Do other amps get the participation award just for being there also? Beyond amps sounding different by design, I find that ‘big-watts’ term bogus and should be left to the unknowning.

    It is nothing more than misinformed with misleading statements. Because, otherwise that connotation would define ‘colored’ or an editorialized sound quality and is not desirable to me.

     

    https://community.classicspeakerpages.net/topic/10649-do-ar-speakers-really-sound-that-good-more-new-video/

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    I was one of those who went from the 60 WPC AR to the phase 400/2000 preamp back in 77. Everything about not enough juice came to an end, requiring only a common sense level of discretion. I’ve stayed with Bob Carver designs right up to the here and now with Sunfire Signature. I swapped the 400 after over 11 years of service for Carver’s 1.0t

  11. 4 hours ago, quickjack said:

    cool thx for the info i want o contact him ! i am also a writer and would like to do a story about Allison speakers ! 

    that name is pretty common actually ! do you have any other info that might be helpfull in finding him ? i will be professional and polite! 
     

    Hopefully, he’s still with us….last time I spoke to him he was in the office 20 years ago clearing it out after the failed attempt to get the company up again. Somewhere around that time he had a heart attack, but was recovering.

    The real story lies with anything and everything ROY ALLISON. You should join the Allison Speakers group (Groups.io) you’ll have to look it up on the search engine, but some of the last who are knowledgeable about RA are still there. 

  12. 2 hours ago, quickjack said:

    Great well how do you do that ?  ( world wide e bay search ! ) and if you hear of some i sure would appreciate you letting me know ! 
    aanoyingly some guy bragged he has all the drivers and has been looking for some speakers for 10 years ! which is really WEIRD as surely he could have found some to buy  i have seen several and i'm not looking that hard!   damn hoarders!
    have run in to this w/ rare auto parts too! the hoarders and their stash ? they often DIE and their hoarded parts are inevitably sold for pennies on the $  or even tossed away ! 
    ( My family KNOWS what to do w/ all my saved parts and i have their estimated worth labled on everyone of them ! LOL ) 
    whats stupid is there IS a market for replacement speakers and there WOULD be a market for reproduction speakers ( if offered at reasonable prices ) and some bright chap COULD make a new and improved Allison type speaker design !  ( there HAVE been improvements advances in speakers )  as I was advised by Danny @ GR research who chided me for wanting to put different drivers in my Allison boxes as being too difficult to pull off and sound good ! 
    I have asked MANY speaker kit makers to makea kit w/ the push-pull woofers at least as it DOES have advantages we could ALL benefit from ! all those 2 woofer designs are 10 Db or so full of distortion !  
    Allison DID have a better idea ! 
     well i have not seen ANYONE use the Allison push-pull w/ their woofers! ( and they should ! ) as we can see failure to do so DOES cause about 10 DB of distortion ! and your twin woofers must be out of phase ?  their design for the mids and tweeters is really good too but was radical then and is STILL radical ! and no one makes speakers like that anymore ! 
    re the push pull design of the woofers :
    "The Push-Pull Design used in the IC10 Speakers is used to reduce second harmonic distortion. The results are typically a 10dB reduction of distortion in the second harmonic. Allison Made use of this technique in a few other designs like the IC20, and the AL series. "

    That’s easy!

    When you “save this search” worldwide is in the filters list.

    No big deal really…a pair mostly from Italy pops up occasionally. I did once have a nice chat with somebody across the pond because of that.

    You might be interested in reading my thread about the IC20’s in original boxes for 20 years! If you read that, you’ll discover I’m no stranger to Allison’s push/pull configuration. Scroll down the Allison Topics list and you will see it

  13. 19 minutes ago, quickjack said:

    yes i was told that story and could not confirm it they did  respond and said " they would only make them for Allison " which DOES kind of confirm the story ! 
    who owns the rights ? where are the plans, drawings, molds, equipment  
     

    That information was never a matter of public record to my knowledge.

    David Faulkner was the name of the investor that funded and attempted to restart the company way back in 2000. 

  14. 11 hours ago, quickjack said:

    need some of the hoarders to cough up some speakers!  do it NOW !  ( well, that escalated quickly ! ! as they say )  LOL ! 

    LOL is right!

     I was thinking about this a bit, then realized in the past year or two, I saw a couple of the hardcore guys that I thought would never let go, part with their prized systems. That’s why I maintain an ongoing (world wide) Ebay  Allison search. I’m not in need, but it’s fun to keep an eye out.

  15. The answer you received from eminence was incorrect actually….Allison Acoustics was originally building their own drivers, though towards the end they were outsourced, (not familiar with that detail). 

    The timing yes. Getting anything from the company became a nightmare around 1999. Restarting the company came and went with failure and is now fading from memory, except for those of us who were young enough and saw it coming. There is NO huge cult of fanatics out there clamoring for Allison. Just a small group of hardcores keeping an eye 👁 out.

  16. 3 hours ago, quickjack said:

    yes well it seems i bought them, noone else did !  only noticed later they had been modded w/ more material on the face "baffle " ? hopefully NOT a botch job !
    now need someone to get them, make a simple crate of 1/4 ' ply and 2X4 's wrap them in bubbble wrap and ship them to me via greyhound bus freighter ( it is cheapest way! ) 
    know anyone near Hull Massechusetts  ?  
    i bought a old SAAB dealer sign some years ago and shipped that way ! just found a handyman on craigs list in the area paid him . May have to do that again ! 

     

  17. 13 hours ago, quickjack said:
     I need the OEM speaker specs so I can compare them to others! so far this driver seems interesting,
    as Allison midrange drivers are NLA what do you think about substituting a BMR ( balanced mode radiator ) as midrange?
    I read :
    "You can position them anywhere in the room
    Another benefit of BMR technology includes near-180 degree sound dispersion. This makes it much easier to fill a room with sound wherever you place them whilst also avoiding creating ‘sweet-spots – areas where sound quality is at its highest. Additionally, the BMR radiates sound uniformly with the same dispersion characteristics in both the horizontal and the vertical plane.
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    n short, because BMR speakers aren’t fussy about placement, they can be positioned almost anywhere in the room and still sound great."
    this seems to be consistent w/ the Allison philosophy?
    this BMR mid is 3" would use as ONLY a mid range No photo description available.

    I saw those cabs on EBay a while back

  18. 10 hours ago, JohnnyTheG said:

    Just to give a follow up to those who have given some very valuable suggestions to me, I finally got around to changing the position of my speakers so they would be pointing straight out instead of slightly toed in and I moved them back towards the rear wall and the change was dramatic.  I got a full stereo image with proper center imaging finally and there were big improvements in the mid bass response.  Who knew?  All these years I was missing out on how much better these speakers could have sounded.

     

    Thanks everyone!

    I lived with both the 2a and 2ax just like that neither toed in. 
    The distance between was the only thing I played around with on the 2ax.

    The 2a’s we’re Always planted in furniture 

  19. On 8/26/2021 at 7:08 PM, DavidR said:

    OMG! 😢

    Too young. His contributions will be missed.

    Thank you for posting.

    Sorry to hear this…we were two weeks apart in age

  20. On 8/8/2021 at 1:08 PM, David in Hollywood said:

    Anyone interested in this piece or can recommend how I move it to the next welcoming family?

    That’s a tough sale, but EBay is where you will get the most exposure.

    RA had no real involvement with the NL series, but they were quite good actually. I have several of the main NL systems, but no hands on experience with the subs. 

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