frankmarsi Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Hello to all members. Does anyone know or maybe can advise what type of ‘alcohol’ to use in taking off the old clue from the woofers outer paper edge and the ‘masonite’ ring with out doing any harm, so I may speed up the process of redoing this procedure of foam surround replacement?I’m not about to waste any Jack, perhaps it’s denatured or super-natured, or ill-natured, I just can’t remember, what about another easily obtainable solution that’s safe. I’ve got to be careful, I could imagine the whole house going up in flames in one moment of lazy stupidity.I’m about to finally embark on my all-important mission and get into a foam surround binge of re-foaming six-12-inch units as they’re due and in need. I must do this before it gets any warmer, cause then outside work on the house will be calling me. I realize that I must exercise caution and actually operate slowly, but I want to remove the old excess gunk first and then proceed to take my time in the gluing and mounting of the new surrounds. Certainly let’s not forget the intense listening sessions that will follow. Then I’d be able to finally get into tweeter replacement and start to listen with out worry of doing these operations for another 7 to 16 year’s as typically the new foam should last for. And after this big undertaking, complete nirvana of non-stop listening to two complete AR systems will take place. I have kept four woofers alive with rubber cement and clothes dryer ‘softener-sheets’ for too long and can’t look at it any longer as it only reminds of how lazy I am. I would simply rather listen instead of doing repairs, story of my life. BTW has anyone used an exceptional quality foam surround lately? I bought 2 from ‘Part-Express’ and they looked very close to the original surrounds, I was so happy to have them, so I ordered 2 more and these others look like any other surround in terms of color, texture and density, not like the first set I was so happy with, what’s a boy with arrested development syndrome to do (living in an AR speaker past)? While I’m asking these questions, is anyone aware of a foam coating that may retard age and still maintain the pliability that is the utmost of importance, we all know must be maintained.Then maybe use the same stuff all over my face and body too. As I remember my originals had a shiny rubbery coating from the AR factory as I presumed back then was for both flexibility and lasting strength. I’ve used rubber cement over the years, but surely there must be something better? I trust AR originally used a clear vinyl coating (or thinned silicone) of some sort, or so I’ve read.I have to admit this is the trouble I got myself in for waiting too long, again a tendency I’m infamous for.All suggestions are welcomed and certainly helpful, but its gotta be soon. Like today or tomorrow as my mood may change and I’ll just become complacent again and lay back and continue to listen and neglect my chores, bad boy that I am!Frank Marsi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest daveshel Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Reminds me of an often-asked question from the mid-90s, when IRQ conflicts made modem installations a real pain. The inside joke among my friends was "How much beer does it take to install that modem?" (The answer was usually "How much you got?")>Hello to all members. Does anyone know or maybe can advise>what type of ‘alcohol’ to use in taking off the old clue from>the woofers outer paper edge and the ‘masonite’ ring with out>doing any harm, so I may speed up the process of redoing this>procedure of foam surround replacement?>I’m not about to waste any Jack, perhaps it’s denatured or>super-natured, >or ill-natured, I just can’t remember, what about another>easily obtainable solution that’s safe. I’ve got to be>careful, I could imagine the whole house going up in flames in>one moment of lazy stupidity.>I’m about to finally embark on my all-important mission and>get into a foam surround binge of re-foaming six-12-inch units>as they’re due and in need. I must do this before it gets any>warmer, cause then outside work on the house will be calling>me. I realize that I must exercise caution and actually>operate slowly, but I want to remove the old excess gunk first>and then proceed to take my time in the gluing and mounting of>the new surrounds. Certainly let’s not forget the intense>listening sessions that will follow. Then I’d be able to>finally get into tweeter replacement and start to listen with>out worry of doing these operations for another 7 to 16 year’s>as typically the new foam should last for. And after this big>undertaking, complete nirvana of non-stop listening to two>complete AR systems will take place. I have kept four woofers>alive with rubber cement and clothes dryer ‘softener-sheets’>for too long and can’t look at it any longer as it only>reminds of how lazy I am. I would simply rather listen instead>of doing repairs, story of my life. BTW has anyone used an>exceptional quality foam surround lately? I bought 2 from>‘Part-Express’ and they looked very close to the original>surrounds, I was so happy to have them, so I ordered 2 more>and these others look like any other surround in terms of>color, texture and density, not like the first set I was so>happy with, what’s a boy with arrested development syndrome to>do (living in an AR speaker past)? While I’m asking these>questions, is anyone aware of a foam coating that may retard>age and still maintain the pliability that is the utmost of>importance, we all know must be maintained.Then maybe use the>same stuff all over my face and body too. As I remember my>originals had a shiny rubbery coating from the AR factory as I>presumed back then was for both flexibility and lasting>strength. I’ve used rubber cement over the years, but surely>there must be something better? I trust AR originally used a>clear vinyl coating (or thinned silicone) of some sort, or so>I’ve read.>I have to admit this is the trouble I got myself in for>waiting too long, again a tendency I’m infamous for.>All suggestions are welcomed and certainly helpful, but its>gotta be soon. Like today or tomorrow as my mood may change>and I’ll just become complacent again and lay back and>continue to listen and neglect my chores, bad boy that I am!>Frank Marsi> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankmarsi Posted March 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 >Hello to all members. Does anyone know or maybe can advise>what type of ‘alcohol’ to use in taking off the old clue from>the woofers outer paper edge and the ‘masonite’ ring with out>doing any harm, so I may speed up the process of redoing this>procedure of foam surround replacement?>I’m not about to waste any Jack, perhaps it’s denatured or>super-natured, >or ill-natured, I just can’t remember, what about another>easily obtainable solution that’s safe. I’ve got to be>careful, I could imagine the whole house going up in flames in>one moment of lazy stupidity.>I’m about to finally embark on my all-important mission and>get into a foam surround binge of re-foaming six-12-inch units>as they’re due and in need. I must do this before it gets any>warmer, cause then outside work on the house will be calling>me. I realize that I must exercise caution and actually>operate slowly, but I want to remove the old excess gunk first>and then proceed to take my time in the gluing and mounting of>the new surrounds. Certainly let’s not forget the intense>listening sessions that will follow. Then I’d be able to>finally get into tweeter replacement and start to listen with>out worry of doing these operations for another 7 to 16 year’s>as typically the new foam should last for. And after this big>undertaking, complete nirvana of non-stop listening to two>complete AR systems will take place. I have kept four woofers>alive with rubber cement and clothes dryer ‘softener-sheets’>for too long and can’t look at it any longer as it only>reminds of how lazy I am. I would simply rather listen instead>of doing repairs, story of my life. BTW has anyone used an>exceptional quality foam surround lately? I bought 2 from>‘Part-Express’ and they looked very close to the original>surrounds, I was so happy to have them, so I ordered 2 more>and these others look like any other surround in terms of>color, texture and density, not like the first set I was so>happy with, what’s a boy with arrested development syndrome to>do (living in an AR speaker past)? While I’m asking these>questions, is anyone aware of a foam coating that may retard>age and still maintain the pliability that is the utmost of>importance, we all know must be maintained.Then maybe use the>same stuff all over my face and body too. As I remember my>originals had a shiny rubbery coating from the AR factory as I>presumed back then was for both flexibility and lasting>strength. I’ve used rubber cement over the years, but surely>there must be something better? I trust AR originally used a>clear vinyl coating (or thinned silicone) of some sort, or so>I’ve read.>I have to admit this is the trouble I got myself in for>waiting too long, again a tendency I’m infamous for.>All suggestions are welcomed and certainly helpful, but its>gotta be soon. Like today or tomorrow as my mood may change>and I’ll just become complacent again and lay back and>continue to listen and neglect my chores, bad boy that I am!>Frank Marsi>TO: All you AR maniac's out with limited resources and poorly made foam surrounds and wasted time re-doing them over and over again.O.K. Guys I answered my own questions as usual.3-22-06TO:- Steve Deckert DECWARE / High Fidelity Engineering Co. 1202 N.E. Adams St. Peoria IL 61603 USA PHONE:(309) 671 2428 FAX: (309) 672 1060http://www.decware.comWith all due respects I find it hard to imagine why this company has not addressed the huge number of AR-3a speaker owners with a quality foam surround replacement they could use. There is an ever growing number of AR lovers who are forced to buy 'no-name' foam surrounds and finding themselves having to re-do the same job over again in a short time because the foam surrounds are of lesser quality. It would be in your company's best interest to supply a (8 1/2, inner diameter) foam surround for all the countless AR 12 inch woofers out there.Sincerely, Frank MarsiO.K. guys I did it, I wrote this company about us. They seem to be serious about what they do and manufacture. Let’s hope for the best.Sincerely, Frank Marsi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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